Hello, Gander was out of goex 3f so out of desperation i bought a pound of pyrodex P, and to my surprise it shot just as accurate as goex, i was using my 44cal. 1851 civilian with 25g volume powder, cornmeal, and a .454 ball, also after just one pass with a dab of bore butter the barrel was like new,[i clean after every cylinder] and my hands were not as dirty, after this pound is gone i will buy another and try it out in my remmies, pghrich