The following was sent to me, and struck me as worth posting, some might disagree. In any event, it is at least historically interesting, and he who learns not from history will usually have to relive it. Of course, these days Ms. Fonda might be singing a different tune, the question of whether she has really changed remains to be answered. Please read on, if interested
Subject:
TREASON
Date:
Fri, 01 Oct 1999 18:45:30 -0400
From:
"Clifford E. Bryant" <scubadoc@xtn.net>
To:
"bryant, clifford" <scubadoc@xtn.net>
This was sent to me and I felt the need to forward it to all. Please
pass it on.
>
>THOUGHT YOU MIGHT FIND THIS INTERESTING. A LITTLE HISTORY LESSON FOR
US
>ALL.
>
>
> Subject: HANOI JANE
>
>Looks like Hanoi Jane may be honored as one of the "100
>Women of the Century". JANE FONDA remembered? Unfortunately
>many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how
>Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our "country" but the men
>who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.
>
>There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Jane
>Fonda's participation in what I believe to be blatant treason, is
>one of them. Part of my conviction comes from exposure to those who
>suffered her attentions. The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot.
>The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the
>Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a former POW in Ho Lo
>Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton".
>
>Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in
>clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace
>Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat
>at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During the subsequent
>beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet,
>accidentally pulling the man's shoe off-which sent that officer
berserk.
>
>In '78, the AF Col still suffered from double vision (which
>permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col's frenzied
>application of wooden baton.
>
>>From 1983-85, Col Larry Carrigan was the 347FW/DO (F-4Es).
>He spent 6 years in the "Hilton"-the first three of which he was
>"missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive.
His
>group, too, got the cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a
"peace
>delegation" visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to
>get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a
>tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When
>paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line,
>shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like:
>"Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the
>humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD
>to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took
>them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once
>the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she
>turned to the officer in charge...and handed him the little pile.
>
>Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col Carrigan was
>almost number four. For years after their release, a group of
>determined former POWs Including Col Carrigan, tried to bring Ms.
>Fonda and others up on charges of treason. I don't know that they
>used it, but the charge of "Negligent Homicide due to Depraved
>Indifference" would also seem appropriate. Her obvious "granting of
>aid and comfort to the enemy", alone, should've been sufficient for
>the treason count. However, to date, Jane Fonda has never been
formally
>charged with anything and continues to enjoy the privileged life of
>the rich and famous. I, personally, think that this is shame on us,
the
>American Citizenry. Part of our shortfall is ignorance: most don't
>know such actions ever took place. Thought you might appreciate the
>knowledge. Most of you've probably already seen this by now...
>only addition I might add to these sentiments is to remember the
>satisfaction of relieving myself into the urinal at some airbase or
another
>where
>"zaps" of Hanoi Jane's face had been applied.
>
>To whom it may concern:
>
>I was a civilian economic development advisor in Viet Nam, and was
>captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Viet Nam in
>1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary
>confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a
>"black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately
>poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium
>in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the
>Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs.
>(My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war
>criminals."
>
>When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp
>communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane
Fonda.
>I
>said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs
were
>receiving, which was far different from the treatment purported by
>the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and
>lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my
knees
>with outstretched arms with a piece of steel placed on my hands, and
>beaten with a bamboo cane every time my arms dipped.
>
>I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours
>after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me
on
>TV. She did not answer me, her former husband, Tom Hayden, answered
for
>her. She was mind controlled by her husband. This does not
>exemplify someone who should be honored as "100 Years of Great Women."
>
>After I was released, I was asked what I thought of Jane Fonda and
>the anti-war movement. I said that I held Joan Baez's husband in very
>high regard, for he thought the war was wrong, burned his draft card
and
>went to prison in protest. If the other anti-war protesters took this
>same route, it would have brought our judicial system to a halt and
ended
>the
>war much earlier, and there wouldn't be as many on that somber black
>granite wall called the Vietnam Memorial. This is democracy. This is
the
>American way.
>
>Jane Fonda, on the other hand, chose to be a traitor, and went to
Hanoi,
>wore their uniform, propagandized for the communists, and urged
>American soldiers to desert. As we were being tortured, and some of
>the POWs murdered, she called us liars. After her heroes-the North
>Vietnamese communists-took over South Vietnam, they systematically
>murdered 80,000 South Vietnamese political prisoners. May their
>souls rest on her head forever. Shame! Shame! ( History is a heavy
>sword in the hands of those who refuse to forget it. Think of this the
>next time you see Ms. Fonda-Turner at a Braves game).
>
>Please take the time to read and forward to as many people as you
>possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she
>needs to know that "we will never forget". Lest we forget..."100 years
of
>great women" Jane Fonda should never be considered.
--
CLIFFORD E. BRYANT, D.C. - PATRIOT
" BONA NA CROIN "
Subject:
TREASON
Date:
Fri, 01 Oct 1999 18:45:30 -0400
From:
"Clifford E. Bryant" <scubadoc@xtn.net>
To:
"bryant, clifford" <scubadoc@xtn.net>
This was sent to me and I felt the need to forward it to all. Please
pass it on.
>
>THOUGHT YOU MIGHT FIND THIS INTERESTING. A LITTLE HISTORY LESSON FOR
US
>ALL.
>
>
> Subject: HANOI JANE
>
>Looks like Hanoi Jane may be honored as one of the "100
>Women of the Century". JANE FONDA remembered? Unfortunately
>many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how
>Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our "country" but the men
>who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.
>
>There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Jane
>Fonda's participation in what I believe to be blatant treason, is
>one of them. Part of my conviction comes from exposure to those who
>suffered her attentions. The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot.
>The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the
>Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a former POW in Ho Lo
>Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton".
>
>Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in
>clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace
>Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat
>at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During the subsequent
>beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet,
>accidentally pulling the man's shoe off-which sent that officer
berserk.
>
>In '78, the AF Col still suffered from double vision (which
>permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col's frenzied
>application of wooden baton.
>
>>From 1983-85, Col Larry Carrigan was the 347FW/DO (F-4Es).
>He spent 6 years in the "Hilton"-the first three of which he was
>"missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive.
His
>group, too, got the cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a
"peace
>delegation" visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to
>get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a
>tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When
>paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line,
>shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like:
>"Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the
>humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD
>to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took
>them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once
>the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she
>turned to the officer in charge...and handed him the little pile.
>
>Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col Carrigan was
>almost number four. For years after their release, a group of
>determined former POWs Including Col Carrigan, tried to bring Ms.
>Fonda and others up on charges of treason. I don't know that they
>used it, but the charge of "Negligent Homicide due to Depraved
>Indifference" would also seem appropriate. Her obvious "granting of
>aid and comfort to the enemy", alone, should've been sufficient for
>the treason count. However, to date, Jane Fonda has never been
formally
>charged with anything and continues to enjoy the privileged life of
>the rich and famous. I, personally, think that this is shame on us,
the
>American Citizenry. Part of our shortfall is ignorance: most don't
>know such actions ever took place. Thought you might appreciate the
>knowledge. Most of you've probably already seen this by now...
>only addition I might add to these sentiments is to remember the
>satisfaction of relieving myself into the urinal at some airbase or
another
>where
>"zaps" of Hanoi Jane's face had been applied.
>
>To whom it may concern:
>
>I was a civilian economic development advisor in Viet Nam, and was
>captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Viet Nam in
>1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary
>confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a
>"black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately
>poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium
>in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the
>Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs.
>(My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war
>criminals."
>
>When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp
>communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane
Fonda.
>I
>said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs
were
>receiving, which was far different from the treatment purported by
>the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and
>lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my
knees
>with outstretched arms with a piece of steel placed on my hands, and
>beaten with a bamboo cane every time my arms dipped.
>
>I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours
>after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me
on
>TV. She did not answer me, her former husband, Tom Hayden, answered
for
>her. She was mind controlled by her husband. This does not
>exemplify someone who should be honored as "100 Years of Great Women."
>
>After I was released, I was asked what I thought of Jane Fonda and
>the anti-war movement. I said that I held Joan Baez's husband in very
>high regard, for he thought the war was wrong, burned his draft card
and
>went to prison in protest. If the other anti-war protesters took this
>same route, it would have brought our judicial system to a halt and
ended
>the
>war much earlier, and there wouldn't be as many on that somber black
>granite wall called the Vietnam Memorial. This is democracy. This is
the
>American way.
>
>Jane Fonda, on the other hand, chose to be a traitor, and went to
Hanoi,
>wore their uniform, propagandized for the communists, and urged
>American soldiers to desert. As we were being tortured, and some of
>the POWs murdered, she called us liars. After her heroes-the North
>Vietnamese communists-took over South Vietnam, they systematically
>murdered 80,000 South Vietnamese political prisoners. May their
>souls rest on her head forever. Shame! Shame! ( History is a heavy
>sword in the hands of those who refuse to forget it. Think of this the
>next time you see Ms. Fonda-Turner at a Braves game).
>
>Please take the time to read and forward to as many people as you
>possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she
>needs to know that "we will never forget". Lest we forget..."100 years
of
>great women" Jane Fonda should never be considered.
--
CLIFFORD E. BRYANT, D.C. - PATRIOT
" BONA NA CROIN "