Travelling to California with gun. Need advice.

e'ville

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I will be flying to CA for about a week and would like to take a 1911 to continue holster practice. I don't need rounds. I don't even need it to function. What is the best way to get it to and from my hotel so I can practice? I am going from Indiana. Thanks.

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Mark
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by e'ville:
I will be flying to CA for about a week and would like to take a 1911 to continue holster practice. I don't need rounds. I don't even need it to function. What is the best way to get it to and from my hotel so I can practice? I am going from Indiana. Thanks.

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Call the airlines for instructions for the flight.
Then, either go to http://www.nraila.org/ and seach for the appropriate gun laws for California.
You may even want to call the State Cops there prior to your trip.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by e'ville:
I will be flying to CA for about a week and would like to take a 1911 to continue holster practice. I don't need rounds. I don't even need it to function. What is the best way to get it to and from my hotel so I can practice? I am going from Indiana. Thanks.

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This was copied from the NRA "State Laws" web site for California. This may not be completely up to date since new laws are passed daily (it seems like) in the Peoples Republick of Kalifornia.

CARRYING



It is unlawful to carry a loaded rifle, shotgun, or handgun in any public place or on any public street in an incorporated area or an area where firing a firearm is prohibited. In California, a firearm is considered loaded if unexpended ammunition capable of being used in the firearm is attached in any manner to the firearm. The following persons and situations are exceptions:

1. Persons shooting on target ranges, or while hunting on the premises of a shooting club.

2. A person who reasonably believes that he or his property is in immediate danger and the weapon must be carried for "preservation."2

3. A person "engaged in the act of making or attempting lawful arrest."

4. A person carrying a firearm while at home or at his place of business, including temporary residences and campsites.

Carrying a handgun concealed is prohibited without a license. The law states that "Firearms carried openly in belt holsters are not concealed within the meaning of this section."

Application for a license to carry a concealed firearm is made to the county sheriff or the city chief of police.

The officer may issue a license if the applicant establishes that he or she is of "good moral character," a resident of the county and that "good cause exists" for the issuance of the license. The licensing authority shall give written notice of approval or denial within 90 days of application or 30 days after the receipt of the background check, whichever is later. "A license may include any reasonable restrictions or conditions" and it shall contain the caliber and serial number of the firearm(s) authorized to be carried. A new license applicant must complete a gun safety and use of force course. The course shall not exceed 24 hours; for renewals it shall be at least 4 hours. The Department of Justice shall charge a fee not to exceed the application processing costs, and the licensing authority may charge a fee not to exceed $100, excluding fingerprint and training costs. The renewal fee shall not exceed $25 and the amendment fee shall not exceed $10. The applicant may be required to take a psychological test used by the licensing authority for its employees, and the testing fee shall not exceed $150. The license is valid up to 2 years. But the license is valid only for up to 90 days if the applicant's place of employment or business was the basis for its issuance, and it shall be valid only in the county where it was issued. A license holder must notify the licensing authority in writing within 10 days of a change of residence.

The issuing officer has the power to include, in his discretion, any "reasonable" restrictions on the license to carry (such as time, place, etc.).

The application must contain a description of the licensee and the gun or guns to be carried. The applicant must be fingerprinted and a copy of the prints sent to the Department of Justice.

NOTE: Despite the existence of this licensing procedure, it is reported that in many California counties, the license is extremely difficult, if not impossible, to obtain.



CARRYING AND TRANSPORTATION IN VEHICLES



Carrying a handgun concealed within a vehicle is prohibited without a license. A handgun carried in a glove compartment or under the seat of a vehicle is considered to be concealed. A handgun placed in the trunk of an automobile, or locked in a container in the vehicle other than the utility or glove compartment or while in a locked container carried directly to or from a vehicle is deemed not to be "concealed." A locked container means a fully enclosed secure container locked by a key lock or similar locking device.

Exceptions to this prohibition are:

1. Members of clubs organized for practice shooting while on any established target range or going to and from such range.

2. Licensed hunters and fishermen while engaged in hunting or fishing and while going to or from such hunting or fishing expeditions.

3. Members of an antique or historical collector's club while at a show, or while going to and from a display as long as the weapons are locked in a trunk or are in a locked container.
 
I don't think it's such a big deal. You need to comply with the airlines rules for checking the gun in with your luggage. You should probably take a taxi from the airport to the hotel, with your luggage stowed in the trunk. Your practice is going to be in your hotel room, right? When you're not in your room, lock it up in your suitcase.

It's perfectly legal to have your firearm in your hotel room, and therefore legal to transport it to your hotel room from your house.
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Protect your Right to Keep and Bear Arms!

[This message has been edited by Gorthaur (edited April 24, 2000).]
 
I'm with DenFoote, Don't Take it!

After living in Kalif., for 35 years, it is virtually impossible for you to have it there without breaking some law. There are so many anti-gun laws having been passed in the past 10 years that even the cops don't know what they are or are not. Therefore, the cops just bust you anyway, no matter what you may say or what law you may quote.

If you're not taking it for self defense, which it appeared by your post, you weren't, then leave it at home. It could save you a world of hurt. besides, leaving it in your luggage in your hotel room, is not a wise decision. It's not at all unusual for "things" to just disappear from hotel/motel rooms. JMHO. J.B.
 
I haven't, as yet, gone through the airline check-in procedure. However, I live in northern California and occasionally drive to southern California. I wouldn't hesitate to take a handgun or two with me, and I don't see why anyone else should.

My luggage is all hardside Samsonite with combination and key locks. That's where my guns spend the day while I'm doing whatever I came there for. They spend the night on the bedside table.

I occasionally take classes in Torrance CA. There happens to be an indoor range not far from where I stay. I go shooting there in the evenings after class.

AFAIK, I haven't broken a single gun law. Ever.

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Protect your Right to Keep and Bear Arms!
 
No big deal. Just check it according to airline procedure (declare it at the check-in counter, have it in a lockable hard case INSIDE your lockable suitcase, and put the orange tag on it they give you. lock it up in the suitcase. some airlines may ask that you put any ammo in another suitcase). Keep it in your locked suitcase going to and from hotel, with ammo (if any) in separate case. In the hotel, you can do what you want. You only real concern (mine to when I travel) is getting the gun stolen if the luggage is robbed/stolen.

You could put the frame in one bag and the slide in another, and not declare the gun...it's in two pieces.

Don't worry about CA laws... if you're just in the hotel, or going from A to B with the unloaded gun in a locked case, no problem. I live in CA. We don't have checkpoint searches...yet.
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I'm sorry to rain on your parade, but let me see if i understand you correctly...

You want to bring a gun with you, into your hotel room which are known to be targets for criminals. You want to bring it with you, without any ammo. To the PRC (Peoples Republic of China, i mean California.)

If it were me, and i was going to bring a gun with me to have in my hotel room, and risk trouble with the law, i'm atleast going to have it loaded. Having an -useless- gun with you is certainly more hazardous than not having a gun in the first place.

Atleast, buy some ammo while your there.

~USP
 
I had no problem flying TO Ca. with a gun, it was flying OUT of Ca. that was the problem. The ticket agents out there don't get people checking guns in like they do in Texas.
 
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