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Mycle

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I'm looking for a little advice on carrying handguns across state lines. In a few months I'll be driving to Kansas from Florida to visit family. I have two questions. I have a concealed weapon license issued in Florida and all of the states that I'll be traveling through have reciprocity with Florida. Are there any restrictions that I should be aware of? Also, my brother-in-law in Kansas is an LEO and loves target shooting. So I would like to take a few of my handguns with me and have some fun while I'm there. After all, what else is there to do in Junction City Kansas? Am I asking for trouble by carrying more than one handgun with me? Your comments would be greatly appreciated.


Regards
Mycle
 
For detailed info you could go to each states state police wesite. If they have reciprocity than I would just stick to the basics of not going into any banks, federal buildings, restaurants where they serve alcohol (i'm from VA) and things of that nature. Carrying multiple guns in your car, well, I used to live in California and there it was good enough to have a gun unloaded and double locked. Lock number one was on the gun case and number two was the lock on the trunk. Had to have the ammo separate there too, but I don't think that's an issue in your case.
 
You must obey each states carry laws, As for other guns I would case them and leave unloaded Ammo stored separate or have LEO buy ammo and have waiting :D
 
Firearms while traveling

Friends,
In addition to following the individual state laws, when traveling outside my state, even with a CCW permit, I lock all firearms into a secure container in the trunk.
If stopped by a LEO, I want to be able to declare the CCW AND that I have no firearm in the passenger compartment.
It takes much of the worry out of being close.
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MQP: Friends,
In addition to following the individual state laws, when traveling outside my state, even with a CCW permit, I lock all firearms into a secure container in the trunk.
If stopped by a LEO, I want to be able to declare the CCW AND that I have no firearm in the passenger compartment.
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WHY?
 
I unfortunately once lived in Junction City while I was in the military. I also have a very good friend that lives close to there that I see every couple of years and we go bang up some targets on his property.

The one absolute piece of advice you need to know is JC (Junction City) is a absolute speed trap heaven and your out of state plates will make you a prime target as they will assume your military and ripe for a ticket to support the local government.

Also the little town off the east end of Fort Riley is a small but powerful speed trap center also.

Secondary streets in JC do not all have stop signs and the law is that if there are no signs then all 4 ways must stop even though some places its impossible to tell if there are signs on the other side.

JC is a dangerous town and although odds are you will have no problems this is one town looking for a way to fine you. Every bar has girls ready to help you spend 200. on some 3 dollar champaign. Keep in mind the 1st and the 15th are paydays for soldiers and ever BG in town knows it and they wont know that you arent a soldier unless you have some long hair or something similiar.

I have personally see locals run stop signs and the cops sit and watch and then a soldier does the same thing and gets nailed.

I hope you have all the fun in the world but JC is a pit that soldiers have to suffer through and call home.. Everything I have said here is from experience.

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RETG,

Why?
Good question.

I am risk averse.

A state patrolman or sheriff has a dangerous job approaching pulled over cars.
He will tell us to keep our hands on the wheel.
If I say, “I have a firearm in the car.”, he has to protect himself.
I expect he will unholster his weapon and order me out of the car.

My ability to avoid trouble now depends on the officer's perceptions of my cooperation.

For example, a local officer ordered a passenger to "Put down the gun!" and shot when the passenger failed to follow the order.
The "gun" was the brake lever beside the passenger that looked to the officer like a Glock slide, a tragedy for both the passenger and the officer.

I do not need drama.
I want to avoid drama.

Life is too short.

Q
 
Traveling Armed

Thanks for the valuable advice and I think I'm going to follow it. First, I will carry because I am legally allowed to in these states. Second, I think I'll leave the ammo at home, let my brother-in-law supply it and keep the other unloaded hand guns in my locked carry case locked in the tunk. And third, I'll make sure I stop at every intersection in Junction City and leave the bars alone. Thanks again.

Regards,

Mycle
 
Be weary while traveling on I-70. Speed traps galore, especially 50 miles before and after Topeka. Case and lock your guns and ammo separately. Out of State plates stand out big time. The local LEO's love to pull over cars with MO plates.

For entertainment or decent food go to Manhattan. There's nothing in that town except for strip clubs and horrible Chinese food.

The preceding is based on personal experience. :(

Mycle
Traveling armed
I'm looking for a little advice on carrying handguns across state lines. In a few months I'll be driving to Kansas from Florida to visit family. I have two questions. I have a concealed weapon license issued in Florida and all of the states that I'll be traveling through have reciprocity with Florida. Are there any restrictions that I should be aware of? Also, my brother-in-law in Kansas is an LEO and loves target shooting. So I would like to take a few of my handguns with me and have some fun while I'm there. After all, what else is there to do in Junction City Kansas? <SNIP>
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A good book to pick up is Traveler's Guide to Firearm Laws of the Fifty States, contains lots of great info; reciprocity, phone numbers of each states law enforcement agencies, etc.
 
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Also remember.....the Fifth Amendment means that you have no obligiation to the police other than your identity and polite behavior...

...use this as you will.....
 
now that I'm learning this computer stuff I found a site type in CCW USA they have lots of good info of where you can carry & if your permit will cover you in different states , its up to date and has good tips on carry laws ....
 
Here is the US Code that protects you from state gun laws while traveling interstate. If you do this you should be Ok

Again IANAL

State transportation of firearms

Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.
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I have an SUV so i keep my pistols in a locked case unloaded in the back of my Jeep. Please note that the general presumption is you are on non interrupted travel except for meal stops and bathroom breaks. Other than that the federal law doesn't apply. The local state law does
 
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Now I'm confused. If I'm reading this correctly the US Code states that I can't carry my hand-gun and it should be locked away. What gives??

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State transportation of firearms

Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.


Regards

Mycle
 
it means when traveling from one state to another. If you can OC or CC in the state you are in, then you are OK. this law protects people traveling through states that are gun hostile. The state cannot impose it's laws on you if you are traveling through the state to another state.

I just mentioned it as a furthur protection while traveling
 
Now I'm confused.
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As stated in the earlier postings, you can carry in states that have reciprocity in Florida, but you will have to obey the CC laws of those states. Those may include restrictions such as carrying in restaurants where alcohol is served, or whether or not you are required to notify a LEO if you are stopped for a traffic violation, so you would do well to check those before you leave.

My understanding is that the federal law only comes in to play if you are traveling through a state that does not reciprocate with Florida and has restrictions on gun possession. In that instance, you can transport your firearm, unloaded and locked up as described, through the state, and more restrictive local or state regulations cannot be applied to you. But you can't stop and stay for sight seeing or visiting without complying with that state's laws, and you don't have CC rights while in the restrictive states.

I hope the above clarifies matters for you.
 
It's not all that complicated. Federal law applies when you are driving through another state enroute from your point of origin to your destination. It simply says that you may transport a firearm (firearms) through any state, regardless of that state's laws, if you transport the weapons unloaded in a locked container that is not readily accessible while you are driving.

Now, arguably, some states have laws that are more liberal than federal law and which might allow you, for example, to carry concealed if the state of your residence has issued you a cc permit. In that event, you can carry a weapon consistent with what that state permits. But, the federal statute is intended to give you the right at a minimum to transport your firearm through any state while traveling to another state.

I drive cross country once a year to a destination where I do a lot of shooting. I have a CC permit and most of the states I pass through have reciprocity with my state. However, and as a way of assuring that I don't get entangled with the local law enforcement authorities, I always transport my firearms consistent with the requirements of federal law. Whether you do so is your choice. Just make certain that, if you carry the gun in any way other than what is permitted by federal law, you are completely familiar with the laws of the states you are passing through.
 
But you can't stop and stay for sight seeing or visiting without complying with that state's laws, and you don't have CC rights while in the restrictive states.
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Question for ya here: Would that provision also apply for food/gas/restroom stops?

I would hope so, but some states have completely a**hole laws and policies concerning transport of firearms. (Mass, NJ and NY come to mind.)
 
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