Trap / Sporting Clay ???
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hey Rocco-
these are pretty much two different sports, but you can get a gun you could use for both. Youve got tons of options. You can take the cheap way out, and buy something like a remington 1100 auto, and get a few different length barrels for it, for trap you'd pretty much want nothing less than 30 inch, maybe even 32, Sporting Clays, you could use the 30 but i'd say 28 inch would be a bit better. In trap you want a higher rib on the barrel than you'd have on the gun for sporting clays.
You COULD get the Browning Sporting Clays shotgun, its an over under kinda fancy beefed up version of the Citori. That gun would be decent in both events.
There are advantages to the O/U over the semi in those events. Especially if you plan on reloading. No picking up empty hulls if you've got the O/U.
Ideally, I'd say get two guns. My thoughts are you just can't beat the Browning BT99 in Trap.
Advice for someone starting out- do it once, and do it right.
Don't just go and buy the cheapest over under or semi you can find and think you'll get real good with them. I seen to many friends buy Stoegers and Mossbergs and be convinced they'll shoot as good as everyone else in Skeet / Trap / Sporting Clays, who are using Brownings, Remingtons, and K80s.
Try out a bunch of different ones, and don't be afraid of putting out over a grand for a decent O/U. They'll last you a long time.
these are pretty much two different sports, but you can get a gun you could use for both. Youve got tons of options. You can take the cheap way out, and buy something like a remington 1100 auto, and get a few different length barrels for it, for trap you'd pretty much want nothing less than 30 inch, maybe even 32, Sporting Clays, you could use the 30 but i'd say 28 inch would be a bit better. In trap you want a higher rib on the barrel than you'd have on the gun for sporting clays.
You COULD get the Browning Sporting Clays shotgun, its an over under kinda fancy beefed up version of the Citori. That gun would be decent in both events.
There are advantages to the O/U over the semi in those events. Especially if you plan on reloading. No picking up empty hulls if you've got the O/U.
Ideally, I'd say get two guns. My thoughts are you just can't beat the Browning BT99 in Trap.
Advice for someone starting out- do it once, and do it right.
Don't just go and buy the cheapest over under or semi you can find and think you'll get real good with them. I seen to many friends buy Stoegers and Mossbergs and be convinced they'll shoot as good as everyone else in Skeet / Trap / Sporting Clays, who are using Brownings, Remingtons, and K80s.
Try out a bunch of different ones, and don't be afraid of putting out over a grand for a decent O/U. They'll last you a long time.
Well if you have money to spend, go ahead and follow Matt's fine advice.
But if you don't (like me), I'd look at getting a nice pump gun, for instance an Remington 870. And the with rest of the money you would've spent on the O/U buy tons of shells and many rounds of trap, skeet or SC and practice and have some fun.
Since trap (at least American) is single targets, having multiple shot capability is mute. While it is tougher to shoot doubles in skeet and sporting clays with a pump...it's still a lot of fun and soon you'll be hooked and be ready to mortgage your house and buy a new Perazzi or K80.
But if you don't (like me), I'd look at getting a nice pump gun, for instance an Remington 870. And the with rest of the money you would've spent on the O/U buy tons of shells and many rounds of trap, skeet or SC and practice and have some fun.
Since trap (at least American) is single targets, having multiple shot capability is mute. While it is tougher to shoot doubles in skeet and sporting clays with a pump...it's still a lot of fun and soon you'll be hooked and be ready to mortgage your house and buy a new Perazzi or K80.
Tom, you just asked if you could use the same motor vehicle for the Indy 500 and the Baja run and stand a good chance of winning both.
Trap goes best with a long,muzzle heavy,tightly choked tool that only needs to fire one shot at a time('cept for trap doubles). SC demands fast repeat shots, a myriad of chokes, and a faster handling, slightly lighter shotgun.SC at present is almost all doubles, so quick second shots and a bit less inertia on the swing are mandatory.
Much as I like pumpguns, an auto is a better startoff shotgun. Lots of competitors use them all the way to the top.
Also, try one game at a time, if you're just starting off. complexity breeds confusion.
Whatever you get, get the stock fitting you and shoot it as is for a year. After that time, you can better judge what'lll work for you...
HTH...
Trap goes best with a long,muzzle heavy,tightly choked tool that only needs to fire one shot at a time('cept for trap doubles). SC demands fast repeat shots, a myriad of chokes, and a faster handling, slightly lighter shotgun.SC at present is almost all doubles, so quick second shots and a bit less inertia on the swing are mandatory.
Much as I like pumpguns, an auto is a better startoff shotgun. Lots of competitors use them all the way to the top.
Also, try one game at a time, if you're just starting off. complexity breeds confusion.
Whatever you get, get the stock fitting you and shoot it as is for a year. After that time, you can better judge what'lll work for you...
HTH...
When I shot trap exclusively I shot a high-ribbed, high-shooting, heavy, tightly-choked trap gun. I shoot all the games now and am moving to one gun that is flatter shooting for everything. I believe switching guns with different handling dynamics and point of impact doesn't help your scores at either game.
The semi and the o/u both have their advantages and disadvantages. Were I starting out I would buy a Beretta A391 or a Remington 1100. These are cheaper than a decent over/under and have a ready resale should you decide to take up another sport. They also have less percieved recoil due to the gas system.
Over/unders are generally a touch heavier but sturdier. I have put tens of thousands of rounds through a 10 year old Beretta that is still ticking along quite happily. An over/under is a definite benefit if you reload because you don't have to chase hulls all over the countryside.
Where I disagree with previous posters is on the pump gun. You will have enough to learn without having to remember to shuck the action on doubles. I love my pump gun but only bring it out on the days I want to shoot for fun and not for score.
Paul
The semi and the o/u both have their advantages and disadvantages. Were I starting out I would buy a Beretta A391 or a Remington 1100. These are cheaper than a decent over/under and have a ready resale should you decide to take up another sport. They also have less percieved recoil due to the gas system.
Over/unders are generally a touch heavier but sturdier. I have put tens of thousands of rounds through a 10 year old Beretta that is still ticking along quite happily. An over/under is a definite benefit if you reload because you don't have to chase hulls all over the countryside.
Where I disagree with previous posters is on the pump gun. You will have enough to learn without having to remember to shuck the action on doubles. I love my pump gun but only bring it out on the days I want to shoot for fun and not for score.
Paul
I agree. A Remington 1100 or Beretta 391 is the best choice. These guns are fine for both sports. Shoot it untill you learn the game and find out what you really want. Nobody stays with the gun they start out with.
Shoot the Rem/391 for a year, learn the games, get some instruction, shoot a tournament or two to learn what they are about.
Stay away from cheap O/U's
Watch other shooters and when you get to know a few they will let you try their guns, everyone likes to brag on their piece
Shoot the Rem/391 for a year, learn the games, get some instruction, shoot a tournament or two to learn what they are about.
Stay away from cheap O/U's
Watch other shooters and when you get to know a few they will let you try their guns, everyone likes to brag on their piece
As stated, trap and clays are too far apart to compare. Skeet and clays blend well. I use an 1100 for both, switching chokes. the 26" barrel with skeet choke has gotten me many straights, while switching to a lite modified choke does me well at clays. One thing nobody has mentioned yet is the two barrel (choke) advantage of the O/U. This in addition to not having to pick up hulls is probably why most people use the two barrel gun for clays.