Traded LC9 for Diamondback DB9

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Skans

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I traded my used Ruger LC9 this weekend for a Diamondback DB9. Lost one round in capacity and it is not factory rated for +p. Still, it is just enough smaller that it makes it a lot easier for me to carry.

I put 50 rounds of range ammo through it. I was accurate with it at 30'. Toward the end of the box, I got one FTF - acceptable - I was also shooting it while inside of a wallet holster - hard to describe, but it looks like the one that is an AOW, without being an AOW; i.e. its designed to shoot the gun while in the holster, but prints like a square wallet. I cut down my and resized my wallet-holster (sized for the LC9), to fit for the DB9 and it works well for my purposes. Looks a little like this: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=473583430 but it doesn't cover the slide.

The recoil is snappy, it feels a little like shooting a .357 from an all steel 4" revolver. 50 rounds was enough for my hand during one range outing. I plan on making this my every day carry. We'll see how it goes.
 
Toward the end of the box, I got one FTF - acceptable
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Yeah, wouldn't bother me either.

I said before I think EVERY gun I've ever owned has malfunctioned...and if the GUN never malfunctions a guy (or gal) just might get a bad round of ammunition-even from the factory. Shrug. Gives you a chance to practice your malfunction drill.

Good luck.
 
Shoot it some more


If you get 1 failure each trip........ its too much for CCW (IMHO)


I see many people moving toward TINY in CCW

I see people that have to stop shooting because the gun is so small that the recoil hurts the hand, or dont enjoy the gun, our dont trust the gun

I went as small as a CM9.......... it was tiny........ I didnt love the gun

I moved to BIGGER (P229) for CCW....love the gun.... I dress around the gun
.... I use a crossbreed holster, very comfortable

I shoot it 100s at a time....... NEVER a failure, never a pain.


Just a humble opinion and worth LESS than $.02.......

BUT

If you are going to carry a gun........ make it a gun you trust, make it a gun that you enjoy shooting, make it a gun you will practice with.


Sometimes the larger gun is the better choice
 
I've carried a diamond back .380 for a couple years now & really like it. The small size allows me to put it any pocket.
 
I will sacrifice comfort of shooting a gun for comfort of carrying. The DB9 is not a comfortable gun to shoot; I didn't expect it to be, and it lived up to my expectations. Still, putting 50 rounds through it in a range session is better than tolerable.

My Ruger LC9 was quite reliable - nothing at all wrong with it, except it was a tad bulkier than I wanted. However, my experience with small guns like the LC9 and the DB9, or even the AMT 45 Backup (completely different gun, I know) is that they need to be cleaned more often to feed reliably. It's really not fair to put 50+ rounds of ammo in one of these guns without at least using some CLP to clean the chamber/barrel after about every 25 rounds. There's simply no need to prove the gun will handle combat conditions of putting many magazines through it in one range event without cleaning it some.
 
I thought that gun was designed to intimidate Rattlers?
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No, you must be thinking of the Colt Diamondbacks some of which sell for upwards of $3,000. Those prices are definitely designed to intimidate Rattlers!:D
 
I posted in the DB forum if the DB9s were finally fixed. I didn't receive ONE message saying yes.

Watch your grip. In about 300-500 it will become damaged. It appears that most are noticeably getting ruined around 1k. The polymer doesn't hold up and the trigger bar is not strong enough (it snaps).

The problem with mags is fixed with a Kel Tec PF-9 mag spring.

Good luck. I am perfectly fine with having a gun to tool with. However, this production is not finished and can't be corrected by the owner.
 
You can't be serious can you?
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Yes, I'm serious. Why do you question this? It's not a combat firearm intended to be reliable with no cleaning with putting countless numbers of rounds through it. It needs to get 7-14 (extra magazine)shots off reliably. That's what it's designed to do,
 
Wildcat, did you experience these problems with your DB9 (broken trigger bar and broken/degraded frame), or are you repeating what you've read?
 
If any firearm can't go 100 rounds without malfunctioning how can you possibly trust your life to it? I sure wouldn't.
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Are you kidding me! Where do people get this "it better do 100 rounds without 1 failure, or I can't trust my life on it" stuff???

The truth is that the gun needs to go 7 rounds without failing, with the ammunition you intend to use in it for SD. It needs to do this consistently and if it needs to be cleaned between every other magazine to be reliable, that does not matter. Especially if you want to carry a micro 9mm.

It makes absolutely no difference to me if a Desert Eagle, Colt 1911 or Glock 17, 18, 19, 20 or 354 runs perfectly with no cleaning for 1,000,000 rounds. Why? Because they are all too big for me to carry. I'm not going to carry a big gun - have no desire to do this unless we are in a SHTF blitzkrieg by Zombie-Vampire Navy Seal operators.

So, that means I can carry: 1) Rohrbaugh R9; 2) Diamondback DB9; or 3) Boberg XR9-S. ALL of these guns are about the same size and all of these guns will have issues with reliability and/or durability where a Glock ## will not. You either learn to manage it (and reliability/durability is manageable with all 3 of these guns), or you quit your day job and wear baggy, untucked clothing so that you can conceal carry a big gun.
 
7 rounds or 100 rounds?

Here is the thing. True one would not normally need to go 100 rounds without cleaning for a self defense firearm BUT if evaluating different weapons, I would choose the one which could keep on going the longest without cleaning.

Pico
 
Gotta +1 Greyeyezz
100 rounds without cleaning is conservative to me.
Maintenance every 25-50 rounds is unacceptable.
On an expensive day shooting steel, I may go through 500+ rounds (any glock) in a session without a hiccup or maintenance. I dont think Im demanding combat performance, its just reliability.
I drive Toyotas and I shoot Glocks for the same reasons.
 
I would choose the one which could keep on going the longest without cleaning.
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I have one of those - a Glock 17. Problem is its way too big for me to carry. Even my LC9 was a tad bigger than I wanted. An ultra reliable gun doesn't do much of anything when you are in a jam and it's locked up in your car or your home safe. Basically, it's a trade-off. The smaller and lighter they get, the more finicky they can be and the more cleaning they need to be reliable. So, one failure in 50 after the gun is dirty is fine with me. Besides, the gun isn't even broken in yet.

No one is going to spend a day shooting steel putting 500 rounds through a Diamondback DB9. That's not what this gun is for. Besides, your hand can't handle that kind of punishment!
 
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