Tokarev 7.62x25 guns...

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Eric Larsen

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I havent seen any posts on these guns.
How many think the CZ 52 and Tokarev are just plain fun guns to shoot? Especially, if you find some GOOD ammo. Lots of flash and boom. The 52 I have played with is very accurate.

Shoot well
 
I just picked up my -52. Looks pretty fun. Ugly as hell, but in that cool, A-10 sort of way :D

Now, If I can just figure out how the hell to field strip it... :D

Mike
 
Tokarev

Had one for years. A Soviet WWII original. UGLY, but sure would shoot. It was the ONLY semiauto I have ever owned that absolutely, positively went bang every time I pulled the trigger. I never had a failure to feed or fire. About 4" at 25 yds. amazed me because it would rattle when you shook it. Early on, ammo was expensive -- but it would eat .30 Mauser all day long. Only used military ball. Was an ocassional carry piece because it was soooo thin it just disappeared into my waistand. At the range, they'd laugh until I began to rip through the magazine. Like all of us, I did a dumb thing and sold it.
 
I have a CZ52 and a TT33 and they are a blast (pun intended) to shoot. I enjoy both of them for the "special effects" especially when using the subgun ammo in the CZ. They have been giving my Makarov a run for the money in the reliability department. I have only experienced one stove pipe in the TT and zero problems with the CZ. I agree that they are much more accurate then what you might expect.

How about PPsh-41 to go along with the CZ or TT.... now that would be even more fun!

Coronach,

Check out Makarov.com for field stripping. It is actually quite easy once you do it a couple of times. Once you have removed the slide, hold it upside down with the barrel pointed away from you. Then take a slender round object such as a screwdriver and/or punch and insert it in the hole (this works better than using the bottom lip on the magazine). While holding the slide firmly - push the barrel forward and then up. This will lift it up off the tracks and the barrel can then be removed. I would refrain from taking of the grips on regular basis. The grips and the clip that holds them is not very strong and could break. Also don't dry fire and do the pencil test on the decocker.

http://makarov.com/pdf/cz52d.pdf
 
Thanks!

I knew makarov.com had info on how to field strip it, I just hadn't bothered to look there yet (I'm a guy. Don't need no steenkin instructions ;)). I will, however, admit to being baffled, and was all set to surf there next. The other sites are new to me, and a wealth of info.

Thanks again!
Mike
 
My CZ52 is a blast to shoot, the best $119.00 I ever spent. I picked up some ammo from AimSurplus, that is factory new and can be reloaded. You can buy dies for it from Midwayusa.com. I think it's going to be fun to work up a load for it.
:)
 
these cz52's are one of the best bang for the buck guns I've ever had.I bought them when they first came in at AIM a year or two ago when they were $88 apeice so I bought 6 of them. I gave 2 to my father in law and wount part with the rest.AIM tryed to sell me a armorer kit with them for $130 but I was gun poor. the kit feild serviced many guns with barrels,f.pins,clips and other assorted goodies.now I can kick myself in the butt for not getting it.AIM does have a good deal on clips$9 and there are new. If anyone is interested I have a case of chech. ammo 2280rds on strippers in sealed wooden box for sale for$160 plus shipping(actual ups cost)
 
Well, I got her apart. Thanks again for the links. What a cool mechanism. I had heard it described before, but to look at it is very different from reading about it. The gun gets style points for its internals. :cool:

Question: what are the lube points for this gun? I cleaned and reassembled it, putting CLP on the slide rails. Any place else need lubed? Like...that way-cool roller mechanism?

Thanks,
Mike
 
Finding info on how to lubricate the CZ52 is not an easy task or maybe it is. I have 2 CZ manuals and they both state to lightly wipe oil on all of the surfaces...... Not much to go on. I personally lube the rails and bearings with either CLP or Tetra and wipe down the slide, frame and magazines with a little oil and a silicon cloth and that is it. I imagine you could just wave a bottle of oil over it and it would be just fine. I am leary of the firing pin channel and tend not to lubricate much around it or the extractor.

Have you taken out the firing pin? It's fun to watch that little retention spring go flying across the room. Not that I personally have done that.
 
Makarov.com also has the Harrison firing pins for the CZ-52 that are supposed to be immune to the breakage problems of the stock firing pins. I picked up one, and a bonus is the trigger pull is very sweet with the new setup, highly recommended!
 
Just don't use any kind of molybdenum grease or lube on the rollers or on surfaces that come in contact with the rollers.

Moly is great for sliding contacts but is really awful on rolling contacts. It will accrete on both surfaces and since it is very hard, the tiny buildup points will gradually eat away the rollers and the surfaces they touch.
 
*scribbling down notes*

Light coating good...moly grease bad.

*scribble, scribble*

OK, thanks. The firing pin is a must-buy (knew that one ahead of time, too)...I was unaware that the trigger pull could be altered easily, too. Cool.

Can't wait to go shoot this beast. :D

Mike
 
You can actually get 2-3 different firing pins that will alter your trigger somewhat....even a target based trigger or competition trigger....my dads cz52 is a worked over version. Has the new rollers and I believe the stage 2 firing pin, still has the block.....hmmmm, not sure..buts its so nice. When he got it, the
decocker was really a trigger in disguise :eek:...since the new parts are in ..its dependable enough to carry......and Its So fun to shoot. :D
Shoot well
 
My dad has the enhanced firing pin, which does indeed improve the trigger pull. Its very light with just a bit of creep. It took a bit of hand filing to get it to fit, and popped out of the gun during firing after about 20 rnds. Luckily it was easily put back in, and has not popped out in hundreds of rounds since that, so I think the detent wasn't engaged properly.
As Eric stated, you do lose the decocker function! I found that out the hard way, when the slide cut a nice little grove into my hand. Luckily I had the thing pointed safely downrange. I did the pencil test, to see if it was just a failure of the decocker. Hitting the decocker sent the pencil flying across the room, everytime. It had less velocity and traveled a bit shorter than pulling the trigger, but its obviously enough to fire the Czech mil ammo the gun was loaded with at the time.
Although it is faultlessly reliable (outside of the firing pin break and subsequent escape) with ball ammo, I wouldn't recommend it for carry with this enhanced firing pin. It is simply unsafe in any carry condition other than condition 3.
If carried hammer down, you must then thumb cock the rather small, strongly sprung, rounded hammer before firing. And the new firing pin appears to have disabled the hammer block safety, making it unsafe in the event that you drop it.
If carried cocked and locked, better not bump that safety up! The decocker requires little pressure to activate, so any false moves and the carrier gets to experience that muzzle blast and legendary penetration first hand. The holster better be fashioned from nomex covered LV IIIA kevlar.
If you think you're going to add the enhanced firingpin and make it strictly a range gun, remember that Decocker = Trigger, and be extremely careful allowing anyone to fire it!
 
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