To Tell The Truth
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The 1st rule of a gunfight is to have a gun.
It is HIGHLY unlikely you will ever need to draw a gun ...... but just in case .....
In 95+% of DGUs, no shot is fired....... so better than 19 times out of 20, if you have a gun of any kind and it is plain that you have the will to use it, that would be enough...... and it would not matter what kind of gun you had, so long as it is clear to the goblin that if they keep doing what they are doing, they will get shot. No sane, even semi-intelligent person wants to be shot with anything, even a Jennings .22.
That said, there is that 1 time in 20 (which you will likely never see, unless you frequent bad places and/or associate with bad people) when you are dealing with someone who is not firing on all cylinders .... in which case, I would like to have the best gun and ammo and training I can afford...... just in case......YMMV.
It is HIGHLY unlikely you will ever need to draw a gun ...... but just in case .....
In 95+% of DGUs, no shot is fired....... so better than 19 times out of 20, if you have a gun of any kind and it is plain that you have the will to use it, that would be enough...... and it would not matter what kind of gun you had, so long as it is clear to the goblin that if they keep doing what they are doing, they will get shot. No sane, even semi-intelligent person wants to be shot with anything, even a Jennings .22.
That said, there is that 1 time in 20 (which you will likely never see, unless you frequent bad places and/or associate with bad people) when you are dealing with someone who is not firing on all cylinders .... in which case, I would like to have the best gun and ammo and training I can afford...... just in case......YMMV.
Herr Walther
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I carry a Walther PP or PPK. First designed in 1929 and 1931 respectively. I carry newer models as well, but the age of a design is not a limiting factor in my carry selection.
I carry a german surplus Sig p6. Mfg in 1983. It works flawlessly and i shoot it best of all my other options. I paid 350 bux for it. I put wolff springs in the mags otherwise it is stock.
I vote that you plan to defend yourself with whatever you like, as long as you know how to use it well.
I vote that you plan to defend yourself with whatever you like, as long as you know how to use it well.
m&p45acp10+1
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My 1970 Polish Radom P-64 is in my pocket most of the time. It is at all times when I can legaly carry. It works just fine. My P250 sub compact 9mm, or my Glock 26 both in 9mm ride in an IWB holster most times also. They shoot just fine.
I do not need the latest and greatest tactidodad for carry. Now the SigLite sites on my Sig are nice, though I have gotten by for 14 years without them.
I do not need the latest and greatest tactidodad for carry. Now the SigLite sites on my Sig are nice, though I have gotten by for 14 years without them.
the rifleer
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This is the whole "a bad weapon in the hands of a good shooter is better than a good weapon in the hands of a bad shooter" idea.
May I assume that a 1911 is "Old School"?
If yes, then I don't think that anything newer is significantly better. I have been willing to bet my life on the 1911 that I have carried for the last 30 years.
I have come to suspect that no matter which "defensive" cartridge you decide to carry and even if you place two shot to center of mass; a determined attacker may be able to fight and shoot for another 15 seconds more.
Fifteen (15) seconds is time enough to fire at least 30 aimed shots with time to reload.
I occasionally carry my Dad's 60-year-old Beretta M1935 .32acp as my BUG. Truth is that I trust it a little more than my 4-year-old Kel-Tec P-32. On the other hand, I distrust myself to handle the safety on the M1935 properly under stress since I don't practice with it that much.
igousigloo
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It is a proven fact that shot placement is the first priority. Then what ever you are carrying is fine if you can hit what you are aiming at.
Standing Wolf
Member in memoriam
I like to wait 20–30 years for the latest and greatest to prove itself. Mysteriously, most of any year's latest and greatest red hot super-duper new latest and greatest isn't still on the market five years later.
My daily carry pre-agreement Smith & Wesson J frame's design is nearly as old as I. Still works fine. No extra bells or whistles. I'll admit I did go so far as plywood grips and a plastic holster, but those are conveniences, not the gun qua gun. My father was a kid when the .357 magnum was invented, so it's passed the latest and greatest test.
My daily carry pre-agreement Smith & Wesson J frame's design is nearly as old as I. Still works fine. No extra bells or whistles. I'll admit I did go so far as plywood grips and a plastic holster, but those are conveniences, not the gun qua gun. My father was a kid when the .357 magnum was invented, so it's passed the latest and greatest test.
Walklightly
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I carry an old J-frame made in 2008.
Do I think I MUST have the latest and greatest? Do I WANT the latest and greatest?
MUST and WANT are not related (by blood at least, maybe marriage) and I think most people who frequent forums have a little more passion anf consider firearms somewhat of a hobby. WANT plays a big part in the guns I by. This is my hobby. Outside of family, church, and football I do not really have any other hobbies.
My primary carry gun is a Ruger SP101 snub nose 357. Old, classic design. I do have 2 pocket 380's and a sub compact 9mm. I did not get them because I felt them were an improvement over the snubby, but they do have their place in my carry rotation. Pocket carry.
Great things about all these options is that it gives us, well more options
I remember years ago, at a bass fishing tackle show, one of my buddies came up to me and took something out of his bag and showed it to me. It was a gizmo to sharpen fish hooks. He very seriously told me, "You gotta get one of these. The way you sharpen hooks doesn't work anymore."
Oh really? They might have made a different way to do a job, they might have made a better way even, but they didn't change things to where the old way didn't work.
Same thing with guns. I realized I'm not really smart enough to keep up with all the latest and greatest gizmo's to come out. I gave up trying, and went back to the same thing (revolver) I started out with. It still works.
If I happen to run into the dark hords out there somewhere, well...I'm having a really bad day already.
Oh really? They might have made a different way to do a job, they might have made a better way even, but they didn't change things to where the old way didn't work.
Same thing with guns. I realized I'm not really smart enough to keep up with all the latest and greatest gizmo's to come out. I gave up trying, and went back to the same thing (revolver) I started out with. It still works.
If I happen to run into the dark hords out there somewhere, well...I'm having a really bad day already.
Considering that in the grand scheme of things very little is being done with firearms today that doesn't trace its roots back at least several decades, I'd say that there are plenty of "old school" handguns that are perfectly adequate today.
Really, the requirements for a defensive firearm aren't all that complicated: you need a reliable gun that you can shoot quickly and accurately, a caliber you are comfortable with, and a capacity and manual of arms that you are comfortable with. While many new firearms would meet those criteria for me, many others that are decades or even a century old meet those criteria just as well.
Really, the requirements for a defensive firearm aren't all that complicated: you need a reliable gun that you can shoot quickly and accurately, a caliber you are comfortable with, and a capacity and manual of arms that you are comfortable with. While many new firearms would meet those criteria for me, many others that are decades or even a century old meet those criteria just as well.