Hey just finished the trigger project on my Weatherby Vanguard. I had originally tried to adjust the factory trigger, but was'nt totally satisfied. I took the factory setting (7lbs) and trimmed it down to about 3 and a half lbs, but it still had some creep that for whatever reason (safety) I couldn't get rid of. After installation of a Timney trigger, I finally have a crisp 2 and one half lb trigger, it's very nice!! Can't wait to take her out to my range. I will be posting some targets!!! BTW the title just means if an idiot, like me,,,,,, and so on!!