'Time for Rumsfeld to go'

rick_reno

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Apparently this editorial will be published in the Army Times, Navy Times, Air Force Times and the Marine Corps Times Monday.

I don't follow these publications - I'm sure some here do. Is this normal?

http://armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-2333360.php

Editorial
Time for Rumsfeld to go

“So long as our government requires the backing of an aroused and informed public opinion ... it is necessary to tell the hard bruising truth.”

That statement was written by Pulitzer Prize-winning war correspondent Marguerite Higgins more than a half-century ago during the Korean War.

But until recently, the “hard bruising” truth about the Iraq war has been difficult to come by from leaders in Washington.

One rosy reassurance after another has been handed down by President Bush, Vice President Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld: “mission accomplished,” the insurgency is “in its last throes,” and “back off,” we know what we’re doing, are a few choice examples.

Military leaders generally toed the line, although a few retired generals eventually spoke out from the safety of the sidelines, inciting criticism equally from anti-war types, who thought they should have spoken out while still in uniform, and pro-war foes, who thought the generals should have kept their critiques behind closed doors.

Now, however, a new chorus of criticism is beginning to resonate. Active-duty military leaders are starting to voice misgivings about the war’s planning, execution and dimming prospects for success.

Army Gen. John Abizaid, chief of U.S. Central Command, told a Senate Armed Services Committee in September: “I believe that the sectarian violence is probably as bad as I’ve seen it ... and that if not stopped, it is possible that Iraq could move towards civil war.”

Last week, someone leaked to The New York Times a Central Command briefing slide showing an assessment that the civil conflict in Iraq now borders on “critical” and has been sliding toward “chaos” for most of the past year. The strategy in Iraq has been to train an Iraqi army and police force that could gradually take over for U.S. troops in providing for the security of their new government and their nation.


But despite the best efforts of American trainers, the problem of molding a viciously sectarian population into anything resembling a force for national unity has become a losing proposition.

For two years, American sergeants, captains and majors training the Iraqis have told their bosses that Iraqi troops have no sense of national identity, are only in it for the money, don’t show up for duty and cannot sustain themselves.

Meanwhile, colonels and generals have asked their bosses for more troops. Service chiefs have asked for more money.

And all along, Rumsfeld has assured us that things are well in hand.

Now, the president says he’ll stick with Rumsfeld for the balance of his term in the White House.

This is a mistake. It is one thing for the majority of Americans to think Rumsfeld has failed. But when the nation’s current military leaders start to break publicly with their defense secretary, then it is clear that he is losing control of the institution he ostensibly leads.

These officers have been loyal public promoters of a war policy many privately feared would fail. They have kept their counsel private, adhering to more than two centuries of American tradition of subordination of the military to civilian authority.

And although that tradition, and the officers’ deep sense of honor, prevent them from saying this publicly, more and more of them believe it.

Rumsfeld has lost credibility with the uniformed leadership, with the troops, with Congress and with the public at large. His strategy has failed, and his ability to lead is compromised. And although the blame for our failures in Iraq rests with the secretary, it will be the troops who bear its brunt.

This is not about the midterm elections. Regardless of which party wins Nov. 7, the time has come, Mr. President, to face the hard bruising truth:

Donald Rumsfeld must go.
 
Its the second time those publications have called for him to resign.

Cheney and Rumsfeld are joined at the hip both have served in DC since the Nixon Administration. Nixon thought he was a weasel..lol. Was going to fire Rumsfeld but resigned before he did.
 
"both have served in DC since the Nixon Administration."

Not quite right. By about 25 years. Rumsfeld was in private business from '77 until he was sworn in as Sec. of Def.

"From 1977 to 1985 he served as Chief Executive Officer, President, and then Chairman of G.D. Searle & Co., a worldwide pharmaceutical company. The successful turnaround there earned him awards as the Outstanding Chief Executive Officer in the Pharmaceutical Industry from the Wall Street Transcript (1980) and Financial World (1981). From 1985 to 1990 he was in private business.

Mr. Rumsfeld served as Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of General Instrument Corporation from 1990 to 1993. General Instrument Corporation was a leader in broadband transmission, distribution, and access control technologies. Until being sworn in as the 21st Secretary of Defense, Mr. Rumsfeld served as Chairman of the Board of Gilead Sciences, Inc., a pharmaceutical company." - DoD site


I'm too lazy right this minute to pull up a bio of Cheney and check your 'facts'

John
 
Ill concede to your facts what I meant is that Cheney and Rumsfeld have a long history together not that they served solely in DC. Cheney served in Congress for a while then served under Bush Sr. Dont forget that during Reagen's administration Rumsfeld was appointed as a middle east envoy. Rumsfeld also served in an advisory capacity during the Reagen Administration with Cheney in the "Continuity of Government" program which had the features of detention and eavesdropping.. In 97 Cheney, Rumsfeld and others founded the Project for the new American Century to promote "American Global Leadership". In 2000 they came back solely to the DC fold. So yes they had a day job but they kept active in DC.
 
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Wow, the liberals over at Ganett (the liberal media bosses that own those publications) wanted to give the Dems a last minute boost. What a shock!:rolleyes: I love how they say it had nothing to do with the election in the editorial that they just happen to release at the very last minute as to minimize response! Get real.:barf:
 
"Dont forget that during Reagen's administration Rumsfeld was appointed as a middle east envoy. Rumsfeld also served in an advisory capacity during the Reagen Administration"

Are you referring by any chance to Ronald Reagan, the 40th President of the United States? Only accurate arguments are interesting.

John
 
Are you referring by any chance to Ronald Reagan, the 40th President of the United States? Only accurate arguments are interesting.
that would be the President I was referring to..

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here is Mr. Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam in 1983 as a special envoy for Reagen shortly after Saddam gassed some Iranians and Kurdish Insurgents.
 
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in 1983 as a special envoy for Reagen shortly after Saddam gassed some Kurds.

The Halabja poison gas attack was part of the Anfal campaign against the Kurds, and didn't happen until March 1988.
 
Who is this Reagen guy you keep talking about? :confused:

"that would be the President I was referring to.."

President Reagan?

I mean, come on, he was President, even if you didn't like him.

John
 
Skeletor

Should go. They should of given our troops body armor and beefed up Humvee's from the get go. His over site has cost us alot of men. The troops know best, they are there, he just pops in.
 
"Actually I voted for Reagen both times."

As a write-in?

There was a Reagan on the ballot. He won, too.

John
 
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