Thoughts? Criticisms? Opinions?

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Atlshaun

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I am fairly newly fascinated by guns. I want to get opinios, recommendatios, and criticism for my plan to buy the following guns. I am diving in head first and have done about 100 hours of research including reading, handling and shooting guns, and talking with as many peoe as i can.

A few criteria:
I will only buy american made guns by american companies. PERIOD
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Firearms_manufacturers_in_the_United_States

Money is an obstacle, to a point. I dont want to spend over a grand for any of the guns i am getting and quite less for a few of them.

Here hey are in order of lanned purchase
S&W 617 with a 4 inch barrell (10 rds)
Browning hi power 9mm
S&W 357 magnum Model 686 with a 4 inch barrell
SA XDm 9mm
Colt series 70 government model 1911
Remington 870 special ops tactical model

Others i will probably buy
S&W MP R8
S&W GOVERNER

thoughts? Opinions? Criticisms?
 
I'd skip the governor too. IMHO- not practical for carry and not one of the better choices for home defense.
 
I will only buy american made guns by american companies. PERIOD... Browning hi power 9mm
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Uuum, did you know that most BHP's have been made by Fabrique Nationale d'Herstal (commonly FN Herstal, FNH, or simply FN) in Belgium and Portugal, the John Inglis Tool Company in Canada, and Fabricaciones Militares (FM) of Argentina? :rolleyes: A number of unlicensed clones were also made by FEG in Hungary, but the later FEG pistols incorporate a number of substantial design changes, and consequently aren't considered true Hi-Powers. I'm not aware of any company that has made a significant number of BHPs in the USA... ever.

FWIW many modern-day Americans associate the Browning name with the present-day manufacturing concern, but the famous historic firearms designer John Moses Browning has no direct link to this company; it was founded by his family in 1927 after he passed away in 1926. During his lifetime, he worked primarily as a designer who licensed his patents to other companies, notably FNH, Colt, and Winchester. FN Herstal-produced guns often bore the Browning name externally, but it was part of the model name; the guns were still FN's. In fact, John Browning did not finish the Hi-Power design himself; he passed away before it entered production, and it was substantially reworked by Belgian FNH engineers.

AFAIK current Hi-Power pistols are assembled by FNH in Portugal using Belgian parts, as were most older BHPs marketed in the USA by the current Browning company.

Here's my thought: if you want a truly American-made double-stack all-metal 9mm, you should get a S&W Model 5903 or 5906 before too many people realize how great they were and drive their prices up. :cool:
 
Never mind dwelling on the guns, at first.
Learn what to do with them, then think about what to buy.
You can thank me later.
 
Bingo on the Hi-Powers; NOT American made. The Springfield XD is made in Croatia, Sigs are German, Glocks are Austrian, CZs are Czech, Berettas are Italian, Springfield 1911s are Brazilian, etc.

I guess that leaves you with Smith & Wesson, Colt or Hi-Point. LOL!

Truthfully, I don't think you should limit yourself to something that's "American made." While I commend your enthusiasm, there are too many other guns out there that hail from foreign shores, but are superb weapons which should be considered.

Oh, and forget the .410 revolver of ANY make.
 
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Not being an American, I'm certainly not bothered where my guns were made, but you could go for one of the SR range from Ruger. Perhaps 2: the SR9 and SR22.

I have just bought a Mark III. I've not had a chance to shoot it yet, but I'm still enjoying it...somehow!

Would advocate adding or substituting one slot for a .22 pistol!
 
Thx for the education... I need to reevaluate the choices i guess... I will. Ot compromise the american made/ owned, but i still feel like i can find great guns meeting this criteria...

Any ideas on alternatives to the above mentioned guns nOt meeting this stipulation?

Thx for all the help... This is very new to me
 
Another +1 for Ruger.
DA Revolvers:
- Small revolver..their new polymer/carry line (that skips me...)
- Small-med revolver: SP101
- Medium revolver - GP100
- Large revolver (hunting) Redhawk and Super Redhawk.

Autos
Small: their new compact/CC line that skips me... In .380 and 9mm.
Full size and "full size compact"
9mm: SR9, SR9c (compact),
.40: SR40, SR40c
1911:
.45: SR1911
 
Any ideas on alternatives to the above mentioned guns nOt meeting this stipulation?
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Pretty much any S&W meets your criteria, with the notable exception of the recently-discontinued SW99 and SW990 series, which were license-built copies of the Walther P99 built partially from German parts.

Ditto the Ruger recommendation.

Plenty of 1911-style pistols are 100% American, although an increasing number of lower-end 1911s are built in the Philippines or assembled partially from Filipino or (IIRC) Brazilian parts.

Just to make things confusing, a number of full-size Beretta and SIG pistols are made in America using only a smattering of foreign parts!
 
Start with a good quality 22 rimfire semi-auto like a Browning Buckmark or Rugerr MK3. You don't have a semi-auto rimfire on your list, but you will want one eventually. That way you can afford to shoot a lot more for the same money as you would spend for the centerfire ammo. The S&W 617 is a phenominal rinfire handgun, but at $750 you could buy the Ruger MK, or Browning Buckmarl and have $400 left for training, range time if you have to pay, and ammo.
After you are more sure of what kind of shooting you really want to do, you can add the others.
 
Ha I wasn't gonna point out the Hi-Power and XD 'issues' but others have already. :p

There isn't anything wrong with purchasing a non-american made gun. Just make sure its a "QUALITY" made gun. Most non US manufactures have US branches/factories so its kinda like its from the US.
 
I would replace the remington with a mossberg 590a1
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+1 on this.

Start with a good quality 22 rimfire semi-auto like a Browning Buckmark or Rugerr MK3.
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This is Very sound advice.

I'd chuck one of the handgun choices and buy a rifle too. Heck, if it were me I'd chuck a couple of those kinda duplicated revolvers and get an AR and a bolt action rifle in a common caliber.

A few criteria:
I will only buy american made guns by american companies. PERIOD
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It is my opinion that this will limit your choices and options. It sounds good but in the present state of world commerce it's pointless.
 
No fun shotguns? No rifles at all?

You might want to diversify on that aspect as well, even if you keep in the same cartridge - example, a nice 22 handgun and a rifle chambered for same. Same ammo keeps costs down, different skill sets to master
 
Browning hi power 9mm
Great gun - buy a T or C-Series made in Belgium. But, of course, this is not an American made gun.

I don't have any strong opinions on the other guns.
 
Shoot first, ask questions later...

-or- Try before you buy. You can spend a ton of cash on guns you'll rarely use because they end up not being a good fit for you. If you've limited your research to reading, get yourself to the range!
 
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