Thought you might get a kick out of this -- Scoped Mini Master
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Pappy John
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It's another sign of the apocalypse. 
Let me respond to some to some of the questions.
My idea, crazy though it may be, is that the combination could make a good backpacking / survival gun. The pistol alone weighs 10.5 oz. The total package is about a pound. Thus little weight penalty. Without the scope, the Mini Master is good for 4" or better at 25 yards (after all, is is a 4" barrel revolver). My hope is that the scope or a red dot will improve the effective accuracy and increase the effective range. If that proves to be the case, this setup might be sufficient to kill something to eat if you really have to. I'll let you know more after I test it.
My idea, crazy though it may be, is that the combination could make a good backpacking / survival gun. The pistol alone weighs 10.5 oz. The total package is about a pound. Thus little weight penalty. Without the scope, the Mini Master is good for 4" or better at 25 yards (after all, is is a 4" barrel revolver). My hope is that the scope or a red dot will improve the effective accuracy and increase the effective range. If that proves to be the case, this setup might be sufficient to kill something to eat if you really have to. I'll let you know more after I test it.
Wow! Sweet!
Much to the chagrin of my wife, I have already decided that this year's small game hunting cannot commence without one of those
What type of rings did you use?
Did you use a standard or LER/EER scope?
Have you mounted a red dot yet?
Can't wait for the range report on that thing! If it works out at 30-40 yards, the squirrels this year should just marinate themselves ahead of time
Much to the chagrin of my wife, I have already decided that this year's small game hunting cannot commence without one of those
What type of rings did you use?
Did you use a standard or LER/EER scope?
Have you mounted a red dot yet?
Can't wait for the range report on that thing! If it works out at 30-40 yards, the squirrels this year should just marinate themselves ahead of time
The key is to find .22 rings of the right width to fit in the vents. Then, you can play with your options. Here, I wanted to mount this small diameter LER scope, so I used a piece of stiff plastic tubing to fit into the 1 inch rings. You could also go with a 1 inch LER scope or a rifle scope and shoot silhouette style. Likewise, a reddot that fit the rings would work. The Mini Master comes in .22 LR, .22 mag, or the combo with both cylinders.
Let me know if you try this out.
Let me know if you try this out.
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Thanks.
Thanks for the info. I may try to stick one together this month. I'll let you know how it turns out.
I think you're right on track with the survival idea. An extremely lightweight .22 with a hair more range than an open sight .22 auto is grand. And even with the optics it will still be small enough to pack around.
I may fiddle with making a holster for the darn thing. If I can get one to turn out okay, I'll send ya one. May be a while as I figure on wet molding it after I get the revolver put together.
I can't wait, this is gonna be a blast!
Thanks for the info. I may try to stick one together this month. I'll let you know how it turns out.
I think you're right on track with the survival idea. An extremely lightweight .22 with a hair more range than an open sight .22 auto is grand. And even with the optics it will still be small enough to pack around.
I may fiddle with making a holster for the darn thing. If I can get one to turn out okay, I'll send ya one. May be a while as I figure on wet molding it after I get the revolver put together.
I can't wait, this is gonna be a blast!
As it is, this setup is still small enough to fit in the front pocket of BDU's. You could also go with a short 1" diameter LER scope. If the heat breaks a little here in Phoenix, I'll go to the range this week and try it out. Let me know how your project turns out.
Best Regards,
RFC
Best Regards,
RFC
Thanks.
Thanks a lot.
I hope to get it started soon. Plan to buy the pistol the end of this month or first part of Oct.
Is there anyway you could lay a tape measure across the rib for me? Or maybe tell us what brand/size rings you used?
That would help a lot.
I have a sneaking suspicion that the rib is 3/8", which means that many of the .22/airgun red dots with the integral dovetail will fit it.
Thanks bud.
Thanks a lot.
I hope to get it started soon. Plan to buy the pistol the end of this month or first part of Oct.
Is there anyway you could lay a tape measure across the rib for me? Or maybe tell us what brand/size rings you used?
That would help a lot.
I have a sneaking suspicion that the rib is 3/8", which means that many of the .22/airgun red dots with the integral dovetail will fit it.
Thanks bud.
Btw
By the way, is that the .22 WMR or the .22 LR?
I think I'll get the .22 LR as I have butt-loads of ammo lying about, and will get the .22 WMR cylinder on down the road. Their web page says that the Mini Master frame will accept both cylinders.
BTW, if you don't already have it, their URL is:
www.naaminis.com
They have some very nice oversized wood grips for the Mini Master/Black Widow frames, and the others, too.
By the way, is that the .22 WMR or the .22 LR?
I think I'll get the .22 LR as I have butt-loads of ammo lying about, and will get the .22 WMR cylinder on down the road. Their web page says that the Mini Master frame will accept both cylinders.
BTW, if you don't already have it, their URL is:
www.naaminis.com
They have some very nice oversized wood grips for the Mini Master/Black Widow frames, and the others, too.
Let me answer your questions:
1) The width of the rib is 3/8". I think any of the standard .22 / 1" rings with the allen wrench screws should be able to span the rib. Get the solid alloy rings and avoid the sheet metal cheapies. There are lots of choices on Midwayusa.com.
2) More importantly, the length of the vents is about 5/8 inches. That is the important dimension because you need to look for rings that are that width or smaller.
3) Sorry, I don't see a brandname on my rings. I think they were a give away with a scope. But, as you look, keep the vent length / ring width above in mind. There are lots of choices on Midwayusa.com. Generally, those rings that use two screws (one on each side) to hold the top bracket in place are narrower than the ones that use four screws. Worse case, you can file down the claws to fit.
4) I don't know if a RedDot for a .22 dovetail will fit without tweaking. It depends on the claws are solid across the lenght or split, and whether the claws can be adjusted to fit the vents. I'm sure you can do some crude machining (my style -- file and dremel -- the limits of my mechanical aptitude) to make it fit.
5) I have the .22 mag / .22 LR combo. You can buy separately, but NAA says you need to send in your gun for a fit. The combo price is actually very close to the price of the LR only. Check out thegunsource.com. 22 LR is great for a lot of purposes. For survival, I'd pick the .22 mag. Just consider that you can carry a scoped revolver and 50 rounds of ammunition, all weighing in at less than 1 1/2 lb.
One thing I need to figure out is the trigger. It is different and a little funky. I am going to experiment with different trigger finger placement -- tip, joint, second segment, etc.
Good Luck. I'm sure you will greatly improve on my crude prototype. Let me know how it goes.
Interestingly, NAA apparently once considered creating a scope mount to fit the Mini Master, but never got around to it.
Best Regards,
RFC
1) The width of the rib is 3/8". I think any of the standard .22 / 1" rings with the allen wrench screws should be able to span the rib. Get the solid alloy rings and avoid the sheet metal cheapies. There are lots of choices on Midwayusa.com.
2) More importantly, the length of the vents is about 5/8 inches. That is the important dimension because you need to look for rings that are that width or smaller.
3) Sorry, I don't see a brandname on my rings. I think they were a give away with a scope. But, as you look, keep the vent length / ring width above in mind. There are lots of choices on Midwayusa.com. Generally, those rings that use two screws (one on each side) to hold the top bracket in place are narrower than the ones that use four screws. Worse case, you can file down the claws to fit.
4) I don't know if a RedDot for a .22 dovetail will fit without tweaking. It depends on the claws are solid across the lenght or split, and whether the claws can be adjusted to fit the vents. I'm sure you can do some crude machining (my style -- file and dremel -- the limits of my mechanical aptitude) to make it fit.
5) I have the .22 mag / .22 LR combo. You can buy separately, but NAA says you need to send in your gun for a fit. The combo price is actually very close to the price of the LR only. Check out thegunsource.com. 22 LR is great for a lot of purposes. For survival, I'd pick the .22 mag. Just consider that you can carry a scoped revolver and 50 rounds of ammunition, all weighing in at less than 1 1/2 lb.
One thing I need to figure out is the trigger. It is different and a little funky. I am going to experiment with different trigger finger placement -- tip, joint, second segment, etc.
Good Luck. I'm sure you will greatly improve on my crude prototype. Let me know how it goes.
Interestingly, NAA apparently once considered creating a scope mount to fit the Mini Master, but never got around to it.
Best Regards,
RFC
Thanks a bunch.
Thanks.
I'm already looking at a couple of used ones on the auction sites for the base of my semi-surgical precision squirrel/rabbit sniping uber-revolver
I think I might go with a small LER/EER scope or a small red dot. By small I mean short length and mounted as low as possible. I'd like to keep the overall package small enough to be convenient to field carry and comfortable to handle.
Aside from that, I'm thinking about one of those hammer expanders so that I will have better access to the hammer, since the scope will likely sit right over top of it.
All that and some oversized wood grips (bit of snobbery I guess
) and I should be set.
Thanks.
I'm already looking at a couple of used ones on the auction sites for the base of my semi-surgical precision squirrel/rabbit sniping uber-revolver
I think I might go with a small LER/EER scope or a small red dot. By small I mean short length and mounted as low as possible. I'd like to keep the overall package small enough to be convenient to field carry and comfortable to handle.
Aside from that, I'm thinking about one of those hammer expanders so that I will have better access to the hammer, since the scope will likely sit right over top of it.
All that and some oversized wood grips (bit of snobbery I guess
) and I should be set.
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