This may be a severely stupid question, but....

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I've been slowly working my way to figuring out which ammo type I'm going to use this deer season in my new Savage .243 Win. I've been loving the accuracy of the gun and have been shooting whatever is cheap, the gun so far has been a tack driver.

I has on Winchester's site and I noticed a .243 Win with only one bullet choice available, and they also have a .243 Winchester with multiple bullet choices available. I have the .243 Win.

Is there a difference between .243 Win and .243 Winchester? Forgive me if this is an ignorant question.....Because there's also a .243 WSSM which I know is different.
 
No difference. Win is just short for Winchester. The other variations are WSM and WSSM, and if you manage to chamber either of those in a 'regular' .243 Win weapon, I'll be very impressed.

What you may be seeing is different ammo product lines, same chambering but several in-house brand lines.

Edit: Just looked over the actual site, and it appears that the 'Win' designation is for their own expensive hunting bullet line, and they use 'Winchester' for either non-premium lines, or lines using non-winchester hunting bullets.
 
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Thank you.....I couldn't understand how they had it broken down on their site, with two different options for the same caliber.

Just for talking sake.....I have the gun sited in for regular ole Winchester Super-x. Like I said the gun is as accurate as it gets.

I have also shot Remington core-lokt, with it being about 1/2 inch low with the groupings.

We then shot Federal Vital-Shok over the weekend and it shot a consistent 2 inches low with 3 different shooters shooting all 3 ammo brands out of my gun.
 
Thank you.....I couldn't understand how they had it broken down on their site, with two different options for the same caliber.

Just for talking sake.....I have the gun sited in for regular ole Winchester Super-x. Like I said the gun is as accurate as it gets.

I have also shot Remington core-lokt, with it being about 1/2 inch low with the groupings.

We then shot Federal Vital-Shok over the weekend and it shot a consistent 2 inches low with 3 different shooters shooting all 3 ammo brands out of my gun.
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This seems odd to me but if it happens it happens. Are you sure the barrel wasn't getting fouled as you shot? Did you try your normal load after testing the other two?

I have a .300 Win Mag (Ruger 77 Mk II all-weather) that I can feed any brand ammo and 150 or 180 gr. bullets and still go to the same point of impact... at 200 yards also. Don't know why but it does.
 
Most rifles will have a different point of impact for different brands of ammo or bullets. The only rifle I have that puts everything in the same spot is my Ruger M77 in 338 win mag. My Rem 700 243 win puts most ammo close but when I load the Hornady 58 gr ballistic tips it prints 9 inches low and 1 1/2 right. Just have to shoot 'em to see where they go.:D
 
The bullet is refered to as a 243 Win or Winchester, that is not necessarly the manufacture, they are made by Hornady, Winchester, Remington, Nosler, Speer and others.

It is just the designation of the cartrage, all boxes will say XX grain 243 Win. or Winchester. (same stuff). Do not use the 243 (WSSM) Winchester Super Short Mag, it will not work in your gun, it is for a different rifle.

As to bullet drop, that is normal when changing bullet weight or style. I just changed over from Honady 105 grain V-Max to Honady 95 grain SSTs and it did the same, 3 inch drop, I just adjusted my scope up 3 inches and was back on bulleyes.

Good Shooting
Jim
 
The bullet is refered to as a 243 Win or Winchester, that is not necessarly the manufacture, they are made by Hornady, Winchester, Remington, Nosler, Speer and others.

It is just the designation of the cartrage, all boxes will say XX grain 243 Win. or Winchester. (same stuff). Do not use the 243 (WSSM) Winchester Super Short Mag, it will not work in your gun, it is for a different rifle.

As to bullet drop, that is normal when changing bullet weight or style. I just changed over from Honady 105 grain V-Max to Honady 95 grain SSTs and it did the same, 3 inch drop, I just adjusted my scope up 3 inches and was back on bulleyes.

Good Shooting
Jim
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The Vital-Shok bullet drop kind of took me by surprise, all 3 were 100 gr so that wasn't it.


Shot #1 was with a pure clean barrel and was cheap Super X, pure 100 yard bullseye. Almost as dead center as one could get.

Shot #2,3,4 Was VitalShok, and all patterened 2 inches low in a group.

To not bore everyone again, Sons #1 and #2 come up with the same,,,UNTIL


About shot 15 or 16 all we had left was the Vital Shok, and my son and I started rotating shots, and the Vital Shok started closing in on the bullseye, with me shooting a dead bullseye on shot maybe 30 on the last shot of Vital Shok.

So in summing it up, the Vital Shok shot good out of a dirty, warm barrel.


I may try the this one just to shoot it and see since I have some time, but I have no qualms about using SuperX or Core-Lokt.
 
Well there are many guns that shoot different with a clean or dirty barrel. Most times after I clean a barrel, I shoot it 5-6 times for foul it before sighting in. Its not uncommon for point of impact and group size to change as the barrel gets fouled.

I used the Federal Game-Shok (blue box) in my Browning BAR 243 and it is extremely accurate and very effective deer medicine.
 
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