This also wasn't part of the movie.

I hate to say it, but as CCW becomes more and more prevalent, I think we're going to be seeing more of these kinds of irresponsible folks making the fears of the antis a reality.

It just seems to me that by the time the nutjobs and the morons are done with it, there won't be a theater in the country that not only prohibits firearms, but goes out of their way to make sure nobody tries to carry into the place.
 
I hate to say it as well, but "shall issue" cuts both ways - some people who probably shouldn't even have guns are carrying them.

but goes out of their way to make sure nobody tries to carry into the place
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That's fine, I'll continue to wait for DVD releases. With theaters closing across the country (my town used to have 3 - we now have 1) and getting more expensive all the time - you would think they wouldn't be attempting to keep anyone out:confused:
 
There are a few things that your mind should be "pre-made-up" that you DON'T catch when you drop them. Guns and knives are the top 2, I'd say.
 
Technosavant has an excellent point. Might one suggest that before you decide to be a CCW kind of person - you train up a bit and know what you are doing.

God forbid, we get a rampage and then a clown college of friendly fire injuries - that will strongly negate the sheepdogs R' Us arguments.
 
That's fine, I'll continue to wait for DVD releases.
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You and me both. I spent good money on a quality home theater, there's no shame in enjoying it.

Still, we have to be realistic when we assert an individual right to carry a firearm for defense. The simple fact is that some people are completely oblivious to safety concerns, and they may be as dangerous to others around them as criminals. While many in the gun enthusiast community are as cautious and respectable as anybody could hope for, there's also those who are arrogant, reckless, and vehemently ignorant with no plans to ever change that. It's those idiots that worry me, not the nutjobs and hardened criminals. If the pendulum of power ever starts moving back towards the gun control crowd, it will be not due to criminals, but because of guys like the one in the article.
 
The hell of it is that most of them drive, too. If the government is going to allow them to drive a 3000# automobile, might as well let them have a 9mm, too. I have a better chance with them at the movie theater than on the way to and from.
 
Idiot. In one act he makes a lot of our arguments about CCW carriers in that Aurora theater look stupid, as he shoots himself in the buttocks at the movies with his CCW pistol. Well done, idiot.
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It is a hard reality, but not all CCW folks are competent and not all are honest. There are a lot of incompetent folks who haven't managed to do something student and a lot of dishonest folks who haven't gotten caught.

That guy in the Nevada theater is precisely why businesses put up "No Guns" signs. They don't put up "No Guns" signs to stop criminals, never have. If they did, they would just put up "No Robbery" signs.

There are a lot more like the guy in the theater, though not necessarily in theaters, such as this guy...just a few days after the Aurora shooting, this guy shot himself in the butt, injured three more including kids, and then ran, and he had a CHL. Things will not go well for him.
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2012/07/24/three-wounded-as-gun-discharges-inside-dallas-wal-mart/


I got a kick out of this from the movie incident...
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/...-shoots-himself-movie-20120815,0,954006.story
“After wounding himself in an unknown portion of his buttocks,” Hawkins said, “he stood up, apologized to people in the audience and left.” Police said only five patrons in the crowd of 30 heard the gun go off. No one else was hurt.
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So, only 5 heard the shot, but nobody did anything remotely resmebling personal safety like vacating the theater (no reports yet), jumped the guy, or anything else. It is like in a gun show when a gun goes off an nobody does anything. You wait until the real shooting starts and then you consider modifying your actions/situation.
 
I hate to say it, but as CCW becomes more and more prevalent, I think we're going to be seeing more of these kinds of irresponsible folks making the fears of the antis a reality.
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Oh, I see them every day. They get a gun, a holster, and a box of ammo, and they assume they're ready for anything. Training is expensive, and it's hard to get time off from work for it! Nuts to that: there's videos on YouTube.

This stuff actually happens more than you want to know.
 
I remember that working in a gun shop/range - at least there I was available for some quick one-on-one if needed. The wanna-be gangsters were the funniest to watch, holding their "gats" sideways, and shoving on it at the moment of trigger pull, trying to add another .5 FPS, I guess. Targets from 5 yards look like they'd been peppered with a shotgun at 25 yards.
I will never ever agree with any kind of mandatory training, but I always encourage anyone who can to get some sort of training.
 
I will never ever agree with any kind of mandatory training, but I always encourage anyone who can to get some sort of training.
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I have mixed feelings on mandatory training. Maybe it isn't the training but the lack of instruction that comes with being a CCW person, a lot of whom have to take a class. Proper carry methods are not part of most state's mandatory CCW instruction curriculum, though some instructors take the time to provide some helpful information.

Simply put, a lot of people don't know what is or is not a really bad idea when it comes to all sorts of gun handling and sometimes they screw up...largely out of a sort of unintentional mental neglect. Some trained folks screw up as well, no doubt, some very highly trained.

Encouraging training is good, but that is rare amongst gun purchasers. As TS noted, folks get a gun, box of ammo and holster and are good to go. The really scary part is that some don't even bother with the holster.
 
No, and some of the "non-holster" types I sold to meant to keep the firearm in the home, not for carry.
I support the Arizona Gun Safety Program as it is written, and wish we could make it as mandatory as Drivers' Ed in school, i.e., a good solid elective.
 
Technosavant has an excellent point. Might one suggest that before you decide to be a CCW kind of person - you train up a bit and know what you are doing.
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+1. This guy dropped, tried to catch it or did neither and some how pulled the trigger as he adjusted himself for comfort. I'd also guess that this gun wasn't in a proper holster.

If you are going to carry, you should take the time to learn how to do it safely and securely.
 
He's lucky it was just a keister hit. Can't remember where I heard it (think it was in my CCW class) that there was an instance at one of the Army ranges (again, can't remember the details so it sounds super ambiguous :rolleyes:) one of the troops at the line was either being irresponsible (spinning the gun on the trigger guard) or just had a moment and dropped it. Tried to recover, and took the 92FS's 9mm to the center of the chest. Did not survive. :eek: +1 on treating it like a dropped blade. Hands and feet away from it!
 
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