Thinking about going Glock

Marko Kloos

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I am considering trading my SIG P239 in 9mm for a Glock of the same caliber. I love my SIG dearly, but I am also impressed by the durability and simplicity of the Austrian Combat Tupperware (tm). Also, there are far more accessories, holsters and doodads to be had for Glocks these days, and I wouldn't have to mail-order my toys anymore. Spare mags for Glocks are cheap, too. The Glock will save me about 7-8 ounces for CCW, a lot when you carry all day long.

The Glock has accessory rails, which the SIG does not have. It'd be nice to clip some fancy toys onto my CCW gun without having to drill or velcro.

I am thinking about a G19 or a G26, depending on which one will fill my hands better. Is there a chance to get regcaps for a G19 instead of socialist lowcaps? If so, where can one get them,and what do they run for these days? I *do* hate the idea of carrying a pistol constructed to be a 15-rounder with a 10-round mag.

Try to convert me to Glock, folks...or tell me that I am nuts for giving up a 239. Keeping the SIG is not an option if I want a new Glock...not enough in the slush funds account to squeeze a Glock past the SO.
 
lendringser,
The glock is a great choice but not for everyone. Make sure you get hold of one to try it out first. I have both the 19 and 26 and they feel great to me, are reliable and accurate. If you want accessory rails the 19 is the smallest one so equipped. HiCap mags are still available but the can cost upwards of $75 each when you can find them. I have the best luck getting them from the online auctions at http://www.auctionarms.com and http://www.gunbroker.com but some of the local shops still have a few at outrageous prices.
 
IMO, the Glock is a great choice. I have a G19 with one standard cap mag and 3 limited cap mags. I don't have my CCW yet, but have been carrying it open (Blade-Tech paddle).

All I can say is that the facts are these concerning my Glock: I've put 2800+ rounds, from different manufactures, through it without a failure. It won't go bang until I pull the trigger, and when I do, it ALWAYS goes bang. It's easy to take down and clean. I don't have to have it smithed for it to function properly. It shoots straight, producing 1" groups at 15 yards with stock sights. This is good enough for me and any situation which requires me to draw.

I'm selling my money pit 1911 for another Glock. Most likely the G30 or the new G36 (if I can find one!)

Go with GLock and you won't be disappointed.

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I'm the NRA.
 
I own four Glocks and two SIGS and both brands are excellent. Of the two brands I far prefer the Glocks. They are reliable, accurate, lighter, and, IMHO, the Glock tennifer finish stands up to wear much better than the finish that comes on my SIGS.

If you can, try a Glock before you buy it. I find that they handle much different than my SIGS and, in partiicular, Glock's "Safe Action" trigger takes some getting used to.
 
The Glock has accessory rails, which the SIG does not have. It'd be nice to clip some fancy toys onto my CCW gun without having to drill or velcro.

I find the accessory rails useless for me. Most people I know feel the same way.

You'll lose money and gain nothing in return by trading your P239. You already have a reliable, durable, accurate pistol. Yes, you'll sjave some ounces off of your carry piece but in return you'll get the joys of mastering the Safe-Action trigger, something that even bishops in the Church of Glock admit takes getting used to. I tired of trying to master the trigger and instead went with a pistol that fit me better, the P228. Shoot before you buy. What feels good in the shop may not in the range.

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So many pistols, so little money.
 
I have a G19 and it is a great gun. But selling handguns? Imho, go without to save for the Glock. The gun you sell today could easily double in price almost overnight. Now is not the time to be selling handguns... And if you are going to buy a Glock, start getting hicap mags TODAY. The price just keeps going up and up.

Sorry for the rant,
Gino
 
I've got 4 glocks, 17, 19, 21, 22 and they are truly reliable accurate guns and the tenifer finish is worry and rust free. The 19 is my favorite size of all the Glocks, and high cap mags are available and relatively abundant. Don't sweat the Safe Action Trigger, I much prefer it to anybodys double action/single action. I am a LEO Firearms Instructor and if I can teach rookies to shoot and to qualify with their Glocks, you should have no problem. Because contrary to conventional wisdom most Cops aren't into guns. Also get night sights on your 19 if you plan to use it for a CCW weapon. 7th Fleet, Glock LEO Armorer/Firearms Instructor

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Well, I wouldn't do it. I'd rather have the Sig... and this is from someone who carries
a Glock everyday!
 
I own three Sigs, P220, P226, and a P228. I also have 4 Glocks, M19, M23, M27, and M30. My present opinion is I prefer the Glocks as the manual of arms is not as complex. My Sigs will out shoot all of my Glocks except the M23 which has a Bar-Sto barrel. Who knows maybe I am going through my Glock stage in life. Regards, Richard.
 
I'm no expert on pistols, but my first pistol (which I debated 6 long months on) was a Glock 19. It has yet to fail me. Yes, they're more pricey than some, but they're simple, reliable, indestructible, etc. Definitely worth the money. And as a CC weapon, put it in a Glock sport/combat holster and you'll have one of the lightest 16 shot 9mm package money can buy. I've had mine for two years now - other pistols have come and left my ownership, but my 19 will never leave. It might not be "perfection", but in my book it's better than most. Go for it, you definitely won't be disappointed.



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"Oh yeah? Well I talk LOOOUDLY! And I carry a BIIIGGER stick! And I'll use it, too." -Yoesemite Sam
 
I know this doesn't address your REAL question; but I have to second that you shouldn't sell a handgun.

I'm not the best shot on this forum (probably the worst) - my G30 is my first SEMI and I spent a bunch on practice ammo, spares, mags, 45 reloading dies, night sights, holster, etc. etc. The price of the gun itself is only part of the equation, and not the highest. If I put the gun at what it's worth in a tradein situation (100-200 less than I payed for it originally?) then I don't see it as worth selling.

Trust me, when smart guns come in that SIG will be worth its weight in gold.


Battler.
 
Don't get a Glock. I finally caved and bought a M30 and it is so accurate that it makes me mad that I didn't get it sooner.
Then, too is the trigger. Probably the best trigger in the world for learning to squeeze rather than yank. A surprise break every time and consistent too. I have everything from Lugers to Colts and the Glock simply amazes me every time I shoot it. Simple, reliable, never a malfunction and accurate.
 
GLOCK 19C $500
LASER MAX High Bright $300
BARSTO Barrel 4.75" $185
M3 Tactical Light $140
Meplolights Night Sight $65
Tung.Cobolt Rod/24lbs spring $75
Trigger 3.25 lb $25
TI striker/Plunger $75
Ext.slide/catch $20
Comp.MAG release $25
Polished Feed Ramp $10
Glock 15 rnd HI-Cap Mag $80
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TOTAL $1500
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[This message has been edited by chaho (edited February 16, 2000).]
 
I have a Glock model 20, it's reliable, accurate, great weapon overall. Never have owneda Sig but from what i've heard and read they are great weapons also. Glock has many extra's as well as other combat pistols out on the market. [H&K comes to mind] Just depends on what you want and how much your willing to pay for all those "goodies".
 
I love my G19. I have the 22 and had the 23 (am selling my .40's). Will get the 21/30 probably. That said, the 9mm glocks are universally regarded as the best gun Glock makes, from a durability standpoint. The others are a close second. Talk to Chuck Taylor, or any commercial range that rents guns. They'll tell you no gun lasts longer with fewer problems than the 9mm Glocks.

But- from my observations, and in talking to SigPhiles, the Sig is more accurate. The HK P7 is also more accurate than the Glock, but what are we talking about? Combat accuracy is different than bullseye accuracy. The Glocks are very realistically 'combat accurate'. You can improve them with a Barsto barrel if you need tighter groups for competition. The Sig feels great in my hand personally. I don't like the high bore axis. If I weren't left-handed, I'd own one, at least, in 9mm or .45.

I can tell you that a DEA agent friend of mine, who runs about 1000 rounds/week thru his 220, hasn't been pleased with the longterm reliability. Sig advised him that he should have the gun overhauled... new pins, etc... every 10,000 rounds, as i recall. When he told them that wasn't acceptable, that he couldn't ship his gun off to CT every 10 weeks for service, they offered to do it for free except for parts and shipping, since it's a duty gun.

Not trying to dissuade you from Sig... I like them, but if I was a high volume shooter, I'd have two, so that I always had one in hand if the other was in for service. Speaking of service, when you do need it for your Glock, there is an abundance of armorers, and no doubt one near you, wherever you live. That's a big plus for the Glock, not having to ship it across the country (esp. with the UPS hassles/expense these days). imo



[This message has been edited by Covert Mission (edited February 16, 2000).]
 
Glock Armorers? The Glock can be pulled down to its components in a couple of minutes, and most of those parts can be replaced from Glockmeister/etc. for a couple of bucks each.


Battler.
 
I would never sell off a SIG to buy a Glock. I would however, save up for the Glock or put it on layaway. I think the Glock is much better suited to carry while the SIG is better for collecting and admiring. I have a feeling that if you sell your SIG you will regret it. You'd probably be happier waiting it out until you can buy a Glock so you can own both pistols. I own Sigs and a Glock and wouldn't want to part with any of them. They are both the finest pistols money can buy.
BTW, the trigger is a bit different on the Glock (not as crisp as the SIG)but its no big deal. As for accuracy, with the right ammo, I find no difference between the Glock and Sig.
 
Well there are plenty of people that would disagree that a SIG Sauer is for collecting and admiring. I for one have no use for pistols that I'm not willing to use on a daily basis.

Accuracy, for me, is a big deal. What might seem minor at the range, getting bigger groups woth one pistol over another, can translate into hitting someone's grandma by accident in the street. I prefer to carry the most accurate, reliable, balanced and natural pointer that I can. For me that pistol is the P228. Everyone is different. so make sure to try before you buy.

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So many pistols, so little money.
 
You will regret getting rid of your 239. Believe me, I did. I was kicking myself as I watched the buyer of my first 239 drive away. Six weeks later I had another one. Would have been a heck of a lot sooner had I not had to order it. The 239 is a wonderful weapon. The Glock is too. Keep the 239.
 
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