thinking about an RCBS chargemaster

Devil_bri

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I'm seriously considering buying the chargemaster combo
However they cost a fortune here in N.Ireland, as does all reloading stuff !
Is anyone selling one ?
Or does anyone know of a shop that will ship it to N.Ireland ?
I see natchez are doing them for around $280, but with our import charges and handling fees its not worth the hassle. If the seller was a bit more artistic with the value then it would be perfect !
Any advice is greatly appreciated
Thanks
Brian
 
I don't know any way around the customs thing other than if, as would be the case returning to the U.S. from abroad, the price is within the gift allowance limit and you can get someone to buy a unit here and carry it back home when they return or visit Ireland. Getting a used unit is risky because, unless the original packing materials were kept, the possibility of damage to the scale is a worry if it isn't carried by hand.

You should also be aware these dispensers are a convenience, but not required. Indeed, some shooters have observed that accurate volumetric dispensing actually gives them better groups. It has been suggested this may have to do with the powder picking up or losing moisture weight from air, and that could throw weighed charge energy content off by a percent or slightly more. The other theory I'm aware of has to do with packing density affecting burn rate in a compensating fashion.

The above seems to be mentioned more with some powder and cartridge combinations than others. Nobody I know complains about weighed loads from an electronic dispenser they own, but I don't think I could accuse most people I know of testing ammunition with a lot of scientific rigor. So this is all somewhat speculative.

When I want a maximally consistent load I do both. I use an electronic scale with enough capacity to weigh a charged case. I tare the scale it with a primed case, dispense the powder from a measure, and then note the charge weight displayed. I'll do 30 to 50, lining them up by their measure-dispensed charge weights in 0.1 grain divisions. I generally get a nice bell curve shape I can identify from the lined up cases. I then keep the center of the bell (usually the most or close to the most cases), dump all the powder from the other cases back into the hopper and tap them and visually check them with a light to be sure all the powder grains are gone, then do them over. This time I keep only the ones that match the bell center value I found in the first pass, and redo the others yet again.

It's much bother, but if you want to eliminate weight and volume both as variables, that's the only option I've found. Neither dispensing by volume nor weight alone is always best, though spherical propellants tend to do both at once without really trying very hard.
 
Thanks unclenick,
That's a very informative post and thanks for taking the time to write it.
As for the chargemaster, the only way I can see round it is to order it from natchez to a US address and then have it shipped to N.Ireland as a "gift"
 
Yep. Here, as long as the value is under $400 we can get gifts without duty (at least, that's what I remember the last time I filled out a customs duty form coming back in country). I have no idea about your customs laws, though.

I also don't know what your power is there. 230V, 50 Hz, I'm guessing. Here it is 115V, 60 Hz. A 230 V, 60 Hz unit can probably be ordered special here, but I don't know about a 50 Hz unit. 50 Hz is going to run a 60 Hz motor or transformer with 20% higher current, and you have to be sure it's rated for that.

The voltage can be adjusted down with an isolation transformer, which is a good idea with electronic scales, as the faraday shield in the transformer (be sure to ground it) reduces the influence of line noise, which makes some electronic scales go nuts. But the frequency issue still has to be inquired about.
 
I find that using my beam scale with a manual trickler works well and is fast. I modified my set up doing this:
1. put lead in base of trickler to steady it.
2. pulled knob off trickler and glued a small gear from a kid's toy on that end.
3. took the cutter off an electric canopener- so only the gear is exposed.
4. I built a stand for my scale to get it at eye level. (depending on your canopener height you may need to build an auxillary shelf for it.)
5. The gear on the trickler and the gear on the canopener mesh, with this I can
throw a charge from my powder measure a tad light then bump the canopener to throw an exact charge right to the 10th of a grain.
 
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