thinking about a Ruger #1?

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I am a big fan of the 45/70 round. I have never shot a #1 but have shot a lot of hot marlin rounds. I am wondering how much more kick the #1 will have with the same loads as the marlin?

p.s. did not see a different forum for single shots so put in the general forum.
 
I set one in for a friend of mine and it was very accurate as is most Ruger #1's. I figured the recoil was going to be terrible but it was surprisingly manageable.
 
I wanted a Ruger #1 in 45-70 or .375 H&H. Then I learned of the Marlin Guide Gun in 45-70. So I got one. But then I still wanted a #1. Turns out .375 is expensive (to me, at least), even if I handload (which I do). So I settled for a #1 in 22-250. I love my #1 and can wholeheartedly recommend the platform.

As to your question of kick...the #1's I have handled (including one in 7x57, .400-450, and my 1-V) have been quite heavy for their size. That will soak up some recoil. But the pads that come with the #1 are cheap so you might need to upgrade?

I say if you want it, get it. They have that same...I don't know...mechanical sort of feel to them like a lever gun. Plus it takes a while to go through 20 rounds...so you get to enjoy your range time more.

Like I said, I love mine.

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I have one in .270. It is the short model with a thin barrel. It has very good wood. I really enjoy shooting it, however it has been a project to get acceptable accuracy. It will now put three shots into an inch and a half at 100 yrds. consistentley. Plently good enough for hunting, but, again I just enjoy shooting it at the range.
 
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I think a #1 in any caliber is a classy rifle and have always wanted one. If I understand things right, the #1 is a strong action, so 45-70 ammo can be loaded pretty stout for in it. But standard factory equivalent loads should be much milder.

Now, recoil in the tiny #3 in .45-70 could be whole 'nother matter.
 
shooting the same loads out of my #1 and my guide gun (both have sims pads installed on them) Id say the #1 is the more comfortable of the two to shoot by a pretty good amount. Even back when i had my #1 458 i had them both at camp with stout loads and both my brothers in law shot them side by side and said the 458 was the easiest of the two to shoot.
 
I owned one in .45-70. I had previously owned a .45-70 in an H&R 1873 Springfield carbine (which actually had a longer barrel, I think). There was almost no comparison, although you still wouldn't say the No. 1 was exactly soft shooting. But if you feel up to it, they were available in .458 magnum, which means you could skip all of that fooling around with hot rodded .45-70 loads.

The place I bought mine some time ago specialized in Rugers and when it came in, they were anxious to see what the wood looked like. I guess sometimes the wood looks especially good.

There was also a No. 3 (had one in .223) that was available for a while in .45-70 as well as .30 Government.
 
ive never been recoil shy and even the 458 was shootable I much prefer the 4570 #1. It will come close in power and is a much lighter package. I wouldnt want to haul around a #1 tropical all day. the #1 4570 make a nice compact rifle to carry around in the woods.
 
Unless you are recoil shy, the recoil isn't bad at all. If you have shot hot loads out of a Marlin, you won't have any issues with the recoil.

My 45-70 is my favorite rifle to shoot and hunt with. I don't think you would regret buying one.
 
If for nothing else than how nice they look, I'd have to have at least one No.1. Mine (a Varmint model, chambered in .220 Swift) is the most accurate of the many rifles I own. I've read countless times as to how finicky they can be to get to shoot accurately but mine is a reliable MOA rifle, completely stock and shooting factory (Hornady) ammunition. Maybe I just got lucky...:)
 
A friend of mine owns a #3 in 45-70, and he describes the recoil as "pretty hard."

the #1 in .45-70 may outweigh a lot of the levers, and for most people, I think that the #1 will be far more ergonomic. I think that most people would be happier with the #1.
 
I don't see that the recoil from my number 1 is any different really than the recoil off my bolt gun of the same caliber. The both weigh about the same and recoil is about the same.
 
I've had two #1s - a .243 and a 45-70. The 45-70 had less apparant recoil than my Marlin 1895 with the same loads, but I think that is due to the stock design of the #1. It's amazing how stock design can affect apparant recoil.
I'm not very recoil shy so YMMV.
Just my .02
 
A friend of mine owns a #3 in 45-70, and he describes the recoil as "pretty hard."
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I have a #3 in 45/70. Pretty hard is one way to describe it. I look at as shooting a 45/70 in a 10/22 stock (which is basically what it is). If you can make it through a box of 20 in a tee shirt, Ill buy you a case of beer. :D
 
I have a #3 in 45/70. Pretty hard is one way to describe it. I look at as shooting a 45/70 in a 10/22 stock (which is basically what it is). If you can make it through a box of 20 in a tee shirt, Ill buy you a case of beer.
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I'll take that bet, I've done that out of a contender in 45/70...a no1 would be a walk in the park :D
 
I'll take that bet, I've done that out of a contender in 45/70...a no1 would be a walk in the park
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Not a #1, its a #3. The Contender would be a pussycat in comparison. :)

Ive shot a Contender as well as a 45/70 revolver, and both were pretty tame. That #3 though, oi! Ive been thinking of putting a #1 stock/forearm on it and see how it goes. Just have to figure out what to do with the lever.
 
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