I did it - while sighting in a couple of rifles this year, I loaded either a .280 or a 30.06 shell in my .270. Broke the ejector off the bolt, so I don't even know which one is in there. Since my son gave me this rifle, I'll do what ever it takes to get it fixed. My question is, can it be done? Will this gun ever be 100%? Thanks in advance, and feel free to hurl any insults that come to mind; I deserve them.
The ultimate sin
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mapsjanhere
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What gun?
Did you fire the round?
Can you open the bolt?
If you say yes to the latter two question, it's an easy fix to get it out.
If not, gun smith time.
In any case, a broken ejector (so I presume it's the extractor if the shell is still in the chamber) is an easy fix on most rifles.
Did you fire the round?
Can you open the bolt?
If you say yes to the latter two question, it's an easy fix to get it out.
If not, gun smith time.
In any case, a broken ejector (so I presume it's the extractor if the shell is still in the chamber) is an easy fix on most rifles.
fisherman66
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I can think of sum worse sins.
If you didn't fire the round you should have much problem, but definitely tell the gunsmith you have a live round in the chamber. If you did fire the round, thank your lucky stars.
If you didn't fire the round you should have much problem, but definitely tell the gunsmith you have a live round in the chamber. If you did fire the round, thank your lucky stars.
LongRifles Inc.
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H110 instead of H1000.
Now THERE'S A SIN!
Now THERE'S A SIN!
fisherman66
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Is the round lodged in the barrel? Jezzus, you are very lucky. The barrel could have exploded or worse the lugs on the bolt could have sheared and you would have caught it somewhere between you mouth and your sinus cavity.
I know you don't want to do this, but I wouldn't mess with a rifle that has that kind of past. Chalk it up to a lesson you will never forget.
I know you don't want to do this, but I wouldn't mess with a rifle that has that kind of past. Chalk it up to a lesson you will never forget.
Don't feel bad. It happens. My genius brother somehow got a 270 in a 25-06 and it did something similar. Got a metal dowel and out it came. since its fired already, you dont have to be incredibly gentle
Just make sure the metal dowel is AS CLOSE to the same diameter as the barrel.
Just make sure the metal dowel is AS CLOSE to the same diameter as the barrel.
It almost had to be a .280, as there is no way you could seat a .30-'06 in a .270 chamber without a sledge hammer. The .280 wouldn't be easy, either, and I can't believe you didn't use a lot of force to get it in, but if the .270 chamber were a bit sloppy, it might go. (A good lesson in not having ammunition around that you shouldn't use in the gun you are shooting.)
What probably happened is that the larger cartridge was forced in, but there was not enough room for neck expansion, with the result that the pressure went sky high and the result was predictable. (The oversize bullet would have little effect.)
If the base of the cartridge case is still there, a brass rod should be used to drive it out. You say a steel rod broke. Was it a cleaning rod? I can't imagine a steel rod of anywhere near 1/4 inch just breaking. If the base of the case is gone, you will need a broken shell extractor to remove it.
I think from reading your posts, that it would be better to consult a gunsmith. Not only would he be more likely to get the case out without damage to the gun, but he can then determine if there is any damage that can't be repaired or that would compromise the strength of the rifle.
Jim
What probably happened is that the larger cartridge was forced in, but there was not enough room for neck expansion, with the result that the pressure went sky high and the result was predictable. (The oversize bullet would have little effect.)
If the base of the cartridge case is still there, a brass rod should be used to drive it out. You say a steel rod broke. Was it a cleaning rod? I can't imagine a steel rod of anywhere near 1/4 inch just breaking. If the base of the case is gone, you will need a broken shell extractor to remove it.
I think from reading your posts, that it would be better to consult a gunsmith. Not only would he be more likely to get the case out without damage to the gun, but he can then determine if there is any damage that can't be repaired or that would compromise the strength of the rifle.
Jim
Jim Watson
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Crawl back to the maker and beg them to fix it.
I have trouble visualizing the effort it would take to resize a .30-06 to where it would go in a .270 chamber; or to resize a .280 AND set the shoulder back .05" to get it in.
There is another thread here about a .30-06 crammed into a .270, with demolition of a mere Mauser action. So it CAN happen.
http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3839843#post3839843
I have trouble visualizing the effort it would take to resize a .30-06 to where it would go in a .270 chamber; or to resize a .280 AND set the shoulder back .05" to get it in.
There is another thread here about a .30-06 crammed into a .270, with demolition of a mere Mauser action. So it CAN happen.
http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3839843#post3839843
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edward5759
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in a test barrel
I shot some 270 in a 30-06 barrel just for accuracy kicks.
I was using a universal receiver and a 26 inch barrel.
The groups were about 20'' at 100 yards and the pressure was around 30,000 cup.
If you didn’t shoot it, its an easy fix.
But always check your ammo to the gun or rifle.
I shoot 270 and 280, I take a Sharpe and put a black ring around the case of the 280s
and still I check before loading
I will tell you about a friend that bought a 300 win mag, The numb head dropped in a 30-06 which the rim of the case held on to the extractor so when I shot it I got all the gas on the back end . We were 16-17 years old So I went the other way.
Ed
I shot some 270 in a 30-06 barrel just for accuracy kicks.
I was using a universal receiver and a 26 inch barrel.
The groups were about 20'' at 100 yards and the pressure was around 30,000 cup.
If you didn’t shoot it, its an easy fix.
But always check your ammo to the gun or rifle.
I shoot 270 and 280, I take a Sharpe and put a black ring around the case of the 280s
and still I check before loading
I will tell you about a friend that bought a 300 win mag, The numb head dropped in a 30-06 which the rim of the case held on to the extractor so when I shot it I got all the gas on the back end . We were 16-17 years old So I went the other way.
Ed
Well, .270 in a .30-'06 should fire with no problem though with poor accuracy. The .270 case is simply the .30-'03 case necked down. As to why Winchester picked an obsolete case as the basis of a new cartridge, I have no idea, but that is what they did.
But according to the posts, a .30-'06 cartridge was fired in a .270 chamber, which seems to many of us to be impossible unless the bolt is forced home with a sledge hammer. That round just won't fit. Either there is something we don't know or someone got something to work that just can't work.
Jim
But according to the posts, a .30-'06 cartridge was fired in a .270 chamber, which seems to many of us to be impossible unless the bolt is forced home with a sledge hammer. That round just won't fit. Either there is something we don't know or someone got something to work that just can't work.
Jim