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Holy propaganda Batman .... 
Dude ... seriously , Iraq is a humoungous mess. Everyone knows it now.
I could make a video showing pigs flying and cows jumping over the moon .... would you believe that as well ?
The state of Iraq is one of anarchy and violence .... 1000's dying , largest per capita in the world of cancer and birth defects from DU armaments , still lacking the necessities of life , 10's to 100's dying daily ...
The Brits are pulling out by spring ... Even that blankety blank Kissenger has now stated Iraq is lost ... war cannot be won.
You need to start reading news from outside the USA about IRAQ as we were the last to know by nearly a year , what a mess Iraq was.
Dude ... seriously , Iraq is a humoungous mess. Everyone knows it now.
I could make a video showing pigs flying and cows jumping over the moon .... would you believe that as well ?
The state of Iraq is one of anarchy and violence .... 1000's dying , largest per capita in the world of cancer and birth defects from DU armaments , still lacking the necessities of life , 10's to 100's dying daily ...
The Brits are pulling out by spring ... Even that blankety blank Kissenger has now stated Iraq is lost ... war cannot be won.
You need to start reading news from outside the USA about IRAQ as we were the last to know by nearly a year , what a mess Iraq was.
JuanCarlos
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He says this is a side of Iraq that soldiers see every day. Um...maybe I was just looking in all the wrong places, but aside from rampant cell-phone ownership I didn't see much of any of that side of Iraq. I saw the festering hellhole that we are only barely holding together (or not holding together, as it would appear nowadays).
And this was in 2005, when things were relatively quiet.
But seriously, enjoy the propaganda, if it makes you feel good.
And this was in 2005, when things were relatively quiet.
But seriously, enjoy the propaganda, if it makes you feel good.
45reloader
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Iraq is never going to be under control as long as Iran and Syria keep throwing gas on the fire.
We had to blow a bridge awhile ago just to keep Syria insurgents from pouring over the boarder.
Iraq police and military are to afraid to fight.Terrorist have them unable to stand up.The Iraq forces seem to sign up just so the U.s. will give them a paycheck.
We lost this war the day we didn't carpet bomb every village that insurgents hide in.
We had to blow a bridge awhile ago just to keep Syria insurgents from pouring over the boarder.
Iraq police and military are to afraid to fight.Terrorist have them unable to stand up.The Iraq forces seem to sign up just so the U.s. will give them a paycheck.
We lost this war the day we didn't carpet bomb every village that insurgents hide in.
Petre
As to you making a "holy propaganda" video... Your preferred Liberal News Media has already done that for you...
JuanCarlos
He didn't say ALL soldiers. Another gold star for you!
45reloader
But alas! The United States doesn't win wars, because our "politically correct" Liberal "friends" and nay-sayers stand in the way...
JuanCarlos
I think I should "run home tearfully... leap into bed... assume the pre-natal position... and turn the electric blanket up to nine!!"
Damn! I'm so sick of faithless, nay-sayers and doomers, with their narrow vision and shallow minds... :barf:
Anymore, there just ain't no damned thing to live for...
"Just shoot me!"
Note the thread title...did not say it was the ONLY story!
As to you making a "holy propaganda" video... Your preferred Liberal News Media has already done that for you...
JuanCarlos
THAT'S right! A gold star for you!
He didn't say ALL soldiers. Another gold star for you!
45reloader
I agree... especially Fallujah and anything moving along the Syrian border...
But alas! The United States doesn't win wars, because our "politically correct" Liberal "friends" and nay-sayers stand in the way...
JuanCarlos
Your skepticism is making me so depressed... I am traumatized!!!
I think I should "run home tearfully... leap into bed... assume the pre-natal position... and turn the electric blanket up to nine!!"
Damn! I'm so sick of faithless, nay-sayers and doomers, with their narrow vision and shallow minds... :barf:
Anymore, there just ain't no damned thing to live for...
"Just shoot me!"
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45reloader
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Eghad
Your so right.
Right now if I only reported what was going on in our countries top 15 crime ridden cities,or just the bad parts of the same cities.
The world would report the U.S. was about to collapse and fall to home grown crime and terrorism.
Your so right.
Right now if I only reported what was going on in our countries top 15 crime ridden cities,or just the bad parts of the same cities.
The world would report the U.S. was about to collapse and fall to home grown crime and terrorism.
wow, this thread is pretty disgusting
First, in response to comments in the video:
"it's not easy to put a country 25 million people back together"
Well maybe we shouldn't have torn it apart in the first place.
4500 schools rebuilt? After we blew them up? Oh, goodie gumdrops.
The elite Iraqi police force? You mean the one that was supposed to have taken control ages ago? The one that, after years of training, only three of which were ready for full control and months later that number had dropped to one? The same "l33t" security force that just recently took control from - of all people - the Italian Army? Or perhaps we're talking about that security force that has allowed weapons to flow directly into the black market under the eyes - and possibly through the hands - of our own troops?
33k new businesses? Yay! Now how many were destroyed?
Yeah, freedom of speech is great but perhaps it should have been their decision to fight for it. Perhaps some people would rather not have Marines killing their neighbors or American artillery shells landing on wedding receptions (oh, oops...that was in Afghanistan. hmm, didn't I hear about some big bad evil doers over there? nah, bad guys only exist in Iraq). Perhaps some people see not being killed because insurgents are fighting invaders just so they can criticize the government. Perhaps it wasn't our choice to make.
"The Real Story"? Please. This is one story, one angle. There is just as much death and destruction there due directly to our military actions as there is happiness over being able to use cell phones. What about drinking water? Oh yeah, freedom is more important. Easy for us to say, let's ask the Iraqis dying of thirst whether they want a glass of water or a glass of freedom.
www.iraqbodycount.org Was it worth it?
after you answer that consider this: What the frak gives you the right to make that decision?
First, in response to comments in the video:
"it's not easy to put a country 25 million people back together"
Well maybe we shouldn't have torn it apart in the first place.
4500 schools rebuilt? After we blew them up? Oh, goodie gumdrops.
The elite Iraqi police force? You mean the one that was supposed to have taken control ages ago? The one that, after years of training, only three of which were ready for full control and months later that number had dropped to one? The same "l33t" security force that just recently took control from - of all people - the Italian Army? Or perhaps we're talking about that security force that has allowed weapons to flow directly into the black market under the eyes - and possibly through the hands - of our own troops?
33k new businesses? Yay! Now how many were destroyed?
Yeah, freedom of speech is great but perhaps it should have been their decision to fight for it. Perhaps some people would rather not have Marines killing their neighbors or American artillery shells landing on wedding receptions (oh, oops...that was in Afghanistan. hmm, didn't I hear about some big bad evil doers over there? nah, bad guys only exist in Iraq). Perhaps some people see not being killed because insurgents are fighting invaders just so they can criticize the government. Perhaps it wasn't our choice to make.
"The Real Story"? Please. This is one story, one angle. There is just as much death and destruction there due directly to our military actions as there is happiness over being able to use cell phones. What about drinking water? Oh yeah, freedom is more important. Easy for us to say, let's ask the Iraqis dying of thirst whether they want a glass of water or a glass of freedom.
And there's the disgusting part of the thread. So let's wipe out untold numbers of innocent men, women and children so that we can play benefactor to a nation that doesn't want us there. Or is it better to slaughter innocent civilians so that a squad of Marines doesn't have to go into battle and die?
No but the VIDEO is titled "The Real Story". That implies it's the only true story. That's wrong.
And if the only way the United States can win a war is to slaughter everyone it sees then the United States does not deserve to win wars.
And I'm so sick of people who think that America's interests are more important than the lives of people around the world. I'm so sick of people who despise Islam so much that they justify wiping out every living soul in the middle east because they don't like paying three bucks a gallon fill up their big ole pick-em-up trucks. I'm so sick of people who feel that our version of freedom and democracy is the only right one and I'm so sick of people - one C-average fool in particular - that claim this is a "mission from god".
www.iraqbodycount.org Was it worth it?
after you answer that consider this: What the frak gives you the right to make that decision?
"That implies it's the only true story. That's hypocritical."
You don't care about the "innocent" unless you are using them to sell your own point of view... In fact I doubt you care about them at all.
Wormtongue propaganda... Prove it!
INFILTRATION The act of slithering in under darkness, to the enemies territory in order to undermine them with lies and propaganda... as a politically red worm.
The insurgents are not Shiites...
Shiites make up the great MAJORITY (3 to 1) of Iraqi citizens...
The insurgents are not Baathist Sunnis either...
The insurgents are Wahabiist Sunnis who do not want a Democracy anywhere in Islam and they want Redworm to believe it is the Iraqi majority that would prefer a Wahabe Theocracy...
THEY are the
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