The NRA's official response to the recent Hostettler bill controversy

Jim March

New member
This was sent to an NRA mailing list by Mike Haas, President of the West Contra Costa NRA Member's Council:

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If you've heard of the controvery on the Hostettler amendments, this will be
more than interesting. I find it curious that the Board has been deluged
with mail about a "controversy" that hasn't been mentioned on MC or any
familiar forum. Methinks Mr. Baker's suspicions below are well-founded.

Mike Haas

Ps. As I believe this was originally for BoD only, I've x'ed out Mr.
Baker's personal contact info. If you think you have important info
regarding such orchestration, send to me and I will forward. Thanks.

> "Michael P. Baker" wrote:
>
> > Hi, folks-- Regarding the sudden spate of angry e-mail posts which a number
> > of NRA BOD members have gotten recently regarding our position on the
> > Hostettler amendments, I believe I smell a rat.
> >
> > Every major NRA involvement either pro or con supporting an amendment or
> > bill always results in a few (or a bunch) of e-mail. However, what arrived
> > recently regarding the Hostettler amendments was more than a "bunch"--
> > it was a deluge; an unprecedented flood of angry "NRA-has-stabbed-gun-
> > owners-in-the-back" flood of posts. This is a put-up job, I believe.
> > Someone, somewhere has orchestrated this flood of e-mail.
> >
> > Here is the response I have been sending out to all the incoming posts
> > I have received on the subject:
> >
> > Mike Baker
> > ----------------------------
> >
> > TO:
> >
> > FROM: Michael P. Baker REPLY TO:
> > Micanopy, Florida
> > Member, Board of Directors 24-HR FAX (352) xxx-xxxx
> > National Rifle Association RES (352) xxx-xxxx
> >
> > NOTE!! My full-time job plus my involvement in RKBA grassroots activism
> > occasionally produces over 100 E-mail posts daily from across the nation.
> > I really DO welcome your input, but the fact is that sometimes I have no
> > time to deal with anything other than official material or posts of a
> > personal concern. Job, family, NRA business (& sometimes, a "real-life")
> > force ruthless deletion of many non-critical and/or non-personal posts
> > whose addresses are not outstandingly familiar.
> >
> > For personal response, put "ATTN: MIKE BAKER" in the subject line.
> > ******************************************************************
> >
> > Dear - - - -,
> >
> > This is in response to your post to me regarding NRA's position on the
> > Hostettler amendments.
> >
> > The problem with only hearing ONE side of the story (from Mr. Knox's
> > or GOA's perspective) is is just that-- You only have ONE side of the
> > story. The internet is rife with uninformed, childish chatter from
> > folks who may mean well, but are quite uninformed about the details
> > surrounding legislative activity. Such uninformed chatter is frequently
> > both unreliable and misleading. Even certain pro-gun organizations
> > and well known pro-gun people (see above) sometimes have personal agendas
> > that color their "reporting." I suspect the latter to be the cause for
> > your concern.
> >
> > On occasion, even *pro-gun* legislation is poorly thought out or will
> > likely result in creating other problems. The Hostettler amendments, in
> > NRA's opinion, clearly fell into that category. I can give you several
> > pages of valid reasons why NRA did not support the Hostettler amendments,
> > but in the interests of brevity I will limit this to a few paragraphs.
> >
> > Please investigate a bit deeper and I believe you will understand that
> > NRA has done the right thing. NRA HAS NOT COMPROMISED! It carefully
> > examined the proposed amendments and made the right choices.
> >
> > In the last few days, based on some one-sided and poorly informed reporting
> > circulating on the Hostettler amendments, there has been a bit of an uproar
> > within the ranks of the pro-gun-rights community regarding NRA's position
> > on Rep. Hostettler's series of amendments.
> >
> > After reading the pronouncements on the situation distributed by Mr. Knox
> > and others, I now understand what has generated the well intentioned (but
> > mis-informed) protests to me and other NRA BOD members. Some of the
> > statements by Mr. Knox and others did not tell you the whole story. After
> > looking into the situation and communicating with both Rep. Virgil Goode
> > and the NRA staff at Fairfax, I have some insight on the situation.
> >
> > In preliminary strategy meetings, NRA met with Rep. Hostettler and agreed
> > that his goal of putting a stop to Cuomo's anti-gun efforts was much
> > appreciated, but there were substantial differences of opinion as to how
> > best to proceed.
> >
> > In a nutshell, the most basic point is that Hostettler's amendments were all
> > designed EXCLUSIVELY to save S&W from themselves, while our Goode amendment
> > is designed to save the rest of us from S&W as well as to put a stop to other
> > games being played by Cuomo and his ilk. The following is the perspective
> > on the situation from NRA's point-of-view.
> >
> > Mike Baker
> > ---------------------
> >
> > Hostettler's recent series of amendments posed two problems. First, drafting
> > limitations forced the Congressman to put forward language that was, and is,
> > very limited in scope. NRA's opinion was that these amendments would not
> > achieve their intended goal of blocking Cuomo, as their very limited language
> > focused simply on preventing enforcement of, and further participation in,
> > the Smith & Wesson Sellout.
> >
> > The net effect would have been to give S&W a "free ride" to get out of the
> > agreement it intentionally brokered with Cuomo and the Clinton-Gore
> > Administration, but the amendments would have done nothing to keep the
> > Administration from harassing or enticing other gun companies into signing a
> > similar agreement. In particular, Hostettler's amendments did nothing to
> > preclude the type of financial extortion Cuomo has sought to deploy by
> > encouraging "purchase preferences" for S&W firearms.
> >
> > NRA's primary goal, by contrast, has been to ensure that no other gun makers
> > are driven into surrendering to the anti-gun extremists. As such, our
> > effort has focused on prohibiting the Clinton-Gore Administration from using
> > lucrative government firearms contracts to coerce other gun makers into
> > following S&W and surrendering our rights. Therefore, NRA worked with U.S.
> > Representative Virgil Goode (I-Va.) to introduce language that would prohibit
> > establishing politically-motivated purchase preferences for government
> > firearms contracts -- thus eliminating the "hammer" of Cuomo's effort, and
> > removing the threat that gun makers could expect to be financially rewarded
> > for agreeing to craven capitulations.
> >
> > The Goode amendment is similar to an amendment Hostettler offered several
> > weeks back, which NRA also supported, that sought to prohibit purchase
> > preferences for government firearms contracts originating with the
> > Department of Defense. However, as noted above, Rep. Hostettler's recent
> > amendments have diverted from this strategy.
> >
> > NRA is pleased to report that the Goode amendment was made part of the
> > Treasury / Postal Appropriations bill in the House with bipartisan support.
> > Opponents of the Goode amendment withdrew a threat to challenge it on the
> > floor, and similar language was introduced in the Senate Appropriations
> > Committee by Sen. Richard Shelby (R-Ala.) and accepted with strong support
> > from committee Chairman Ted Stevens (R-Alaska). Rest assured NRA will
> > strongly defend the Goode / Shelby language from any effort to remove it
> > as the process nears completion.
> >
> > Again, NRA appreciates your concerns regarding recent activities in Congress,
> > and we hope that this detailed discussion of legislative strategy addresses
> > your query. NRA hopes that you will agree that it is extremely important
> > to keep other gun makers from being enticed into caving in to the Cuomo-
> > Clinton-Gore team with the lure of lucrative government contracts. NRA also
> > hopes that you will agree that such efforts are far more strategically sound
> > than focussing exclusively on saving S&W from the consequences of the
> > groundbreaking surrender that the company brought upon itself.
 
Hostettler Vote Put Off Until Monday
-- Make sure you've delivered the message below to your Rep.

Gun Owners of America E-Mail/FAX Alert
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408 http://www.gunowners.org
This alert posted on the web at: http://www.gunowners.org/a062400.htm


(Weekend edition, June 24, 2000) -- Rep. John Hostettler (R-IN) is
still in the "on deck circle" waiting to offer his pro-gun amendment
to the Justice Department funding bill (H.R. 4690).

Rep. Hostettler had planned to offer the amendment on Friday, but
debate over the appropriations bill has tarried quite long and
pushed several proposed amendments into next week.

Hostettler's provision will stop the Justice Department from being
able to enforce the recent Smith & Wesson agreement. If this
amendment passes, the government will be prohibited from taking
S&W -- or any other company -- to court for failing to abide by the
terms of that agreement.

This amendment will especially encourage those businesses that
manufacture guns to refrain from joining Smith & Wesson. Several
manufacturers are refusing to do so, and this protection will
strengthen their resolve. Moreover, the amendment will prevent the
Clinton administration from using extortion (via the threat of a
lawsuit) to coerce gun makers into joining the gun control
agreement.


ACTION:

1. Please call or fax or email your Representative and ask him to
support the Hostettler amendment that will be offered to the
Commerce-Justice-State bill (H.R. 4690). Use the GOA Legislative
Action Center at http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm to identify
and contact your Rep. You can also call the House of Representatives
at 202-225-3121, or toll-free at 1-888-449-3511.

2. Forward this alert to as many gun owners as possible and ask them
to contact their Congressman this weekend or on Monday. The vote on
the Hostettler amendment will be held late Monday after 6:00 P.M.
Thus, there is still plenty of time to contact legislators.


------URGENT Pre-written message ------

Dear Representative:

I support the amendment that Rep. John Hostettler is expected to
offer to the Commerce-Justice-State appropriations bill (H.R. 4690).
This important amendment will stop the Justice Department from in
any way enforcing the gun control "legislation" that was foisted
upon the country in the Smith & Wesson agreement back in March.

The Smith & Wesson agreement is legislation through litigation, and
it would regulate and restrict ALL firearms sold by dealers that
carry Smith and Wesson products. This horrible agreement is not
limited to just S&W. It will also restrict the sales of firearms
made by Glock, Remington, H&K, etc.

Almost as dangerous is the fact that the gun control in the S&W
agreement was unilaterally imposed by the President's
administration upon the people of this nation.

Gun Owners of America supports the Hostettler language; and I hope
that you will also support this amendment to the CJS funding bill.
Please let me know what you intend to do.

Sincerely,

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IN response to a second postcard I sent from GOA to my congressmen to cosponsor this pro-gun bill he replied
by..
stating how terrible what Clinton was doing is, how hes always been a RKBA supporter
and how the NRA has given him an A+ rating on his gun votes (after he voted for the
anti-gun bill HR1501)
then stated he does not feel like further federal gun legislation is the answer including the above.
Ed Bryant R-TN.

I agree with Gitarmac its simply be terrible if the NRA led repub's actually took action.
Smack down the Smith&wesson deal give the liberal's a Hell of a lot more work to do,
mm terrible thought.
HUndred's even thousands of emails from members and they still tell the members whats good for them and tell them what they are and are not going to do.
hahahah
yes that is represenation.
Ofourse the vote on the bill also came up I belevie after all of the NRA BOD members had been re-elected so they had little to worry about.
www.gunowners.org www.citizensofamerica.org



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liberty for security deserve neither"
 
Ah, yes, the standard line we hear every time we disagree with the NRA's leadership on anything; "You're being childish!" or "naive", or are "unsophisticated"... All ways of saying that we're too stupid to have the right to our own opinions, and that the NRA's leaders are going to have to lead us/trick us into doing what's right even if we haven't got the brains to agree with them.

Pardon me, but were the Hostletter and Goode/Shelby amendments mutually exclusive?
Seems to me that they do somewhat diferent things, both of which are desirable. But it's not enough for the NRA to win it's amendments, it ALSO has to establish that other pro-gun groups are ineffective, and thus unworthy of support, by defeating THEIR amendments. It's not enough to win the game, the NRA's got to score all the points, too... or people might start wondering if all those compromises were really necessary.

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