The next time you buy ketchup...
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Mike Irwin
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They have no connection to the company that makes Heinz ketchup.
Mike Irwin
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"So money is no connection?"
They, like millions of other people, own stock in Heinz Food Corp.
However, the Heinz-Kerrys do not have a controlling interest in the company and they have no representation or say on the board of directors.
To boycott a product on such terms -- because someone you don't like owns stock in the company, but doesn't have a direct say in how the company is run on a daily basis -- means that you'd be naked and starving to death in a matter of weeks.
They, like millions of other people, own stock in Heinz Food Corp.
However, the Heinz-Kerrys do not have a controlling interest in the company and they have no representation or say on the board of directors.
To boycott a product on such terms -- because someone you don't like owns stock in the company, but doesn't have a direct say in how the company is run on a daily basis -- means that you'd be naked and starving to death in a matter of weeks.
Wouldn't a better boycott of the Kerry be to make sure he isn't re-elected as Senator?
That seems a little more enlightened than punishing the employees and shareholders of a company his WIFE has an interest in.
Or is the ketchup itself somehow evil because Kerry had the bad taste to run against George Bush?
That seems a little more enlightened than punishing the employees and shareholders of a company his WIFE has an interest in.
Or is the ketchup itself somehow evil because Kerry had the bad taste to run against George Bush?
Mike Irwin
Staff
"funny.. its okay to condemn Cheney/Halliburton.. yet not Kerry and Heinz"
Anyone hear the sound of the point rushing past?
It's OK to condemn Heinz-Kerry FOR THE RIGHT REASONS.
It's NOT OK to condemn Heinz Food Corporation because Teresa Heinz Kerry shares a common name with the food giant.
Anyone hear the sound of the point rushing past?
It's OK to condemn Heinz-Kerry FOR THE RIGHT REASONS.
It's NOT OK to condemn Heinz Food Corporation because Teresa Heinz Kerry shares a common name with the food giant.
I still buy Heinz
From http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/heinz.asp (and other sources)
Other facts:
She was alse a registered Republican until 2003.
She holds ten honorary doctorate degrees in recognition of her philanthropy.
She was awarded the Albert Schweitzer Gold Medal for Humanitarianism in 2003.
She has a prenup so SKerry doesn't get his grubby mitts on her dough.
How she ever ended up with that loser, I have no idea. I'm sure he's slowly corrupting her, though.
Anyway, as the title says, I still buy Heinz. Squeeze bottle ketchup is 'da bomb!
From http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/heinz.asp (and other sources)
Other facts:
She was alse a registered Republican until 2003.
She holds ten honorary doctorate degrees in recognition of her philanthropy.
She was awarded the Albert Schweitzer Gold Medal for Humanitarianism in 2003.
She has a prenup so SKerry doesn't get his grubby mitts on her dough.
How she ever ended up with that loser, I have no idea. I'm sure he's slowly corrupting her, though.
Anyway, as the title says, I still buy Heinz. Squeeze bottle ketchup is 'da bomb!
Double Naught Spy
New member
Billy Beer was a flop and I doubt W Ketchup will do much better.
I assume all the boycotters of things that support Kerry and Democrats have also stopped watching ANY programming on ABC, CBS and NBC?
And, given the immense Kerry support of Bill Gates, I'm willing to bet that all of you have deleted your Microsoft programs, and are reading this forum through Linux?
Yeah, that's what I thought... Easy to talk about boycotts when it's a condiment, not the newest episode of CSI.
If Heinz was the only brand of ketchup in the world, this wouldn't even have been posted.
And, given the immense Kerry support of Bill Gates, I'm willing to bet that all of you have deleted your Microsoft programs, and are reading this forum through Linux?
Yeah, that's what I thought... Easy to talk about boycotts when it's a condiment, not the newest episode of CSI.
If Heinz was the only brand of ketchup in the world, this wouldn't even have been posted.Mike Irwin
Staff
"How bout we condem Heinz cuz of all of their overseas jobs? Na, piss off too many crybabys."
Spoken like someone who didn't bother to read the Snopes refutation that was included above.
So, for your (hopefully) reading pleasure:
Moreover, the Heinz Company's operations are not an example of the type of outsourcing that is currently a hot political issue (i.e., sending out work to offshore companies to provide services which a company might otherwise have employed its own staff to perform).Heinz is a U.S.-based global business which sells its products in dozens of other countries, and like other food companies it has to localize some of its production at factories located in its foreign market areas. (It makes little sense from either an economic or a freshness standpoint to be shipping fruits and vegetables and/or finished food products halfway around the world rather than producing them locally.) One wouldn't expect, for example, every can and bottle of Coca-Cola sold anywhere in the world — whether it be Australia, China, or Portugal — to be produced by U.S. bottlers.)
As the H.J. Heinz Company notes, well over half its sales come from foreign markets, and it therefore operates overseas facilities to serve those markets:
Currently, 60% of the sales of the H.J. Heinz Company are outside the United States and to accommodate those customers by providing facilities closer to those markets, the company maintains a number of overseas facilities that provide products for consumers in those markets. This allows Heinz to pack the freshest ingredients, tailor its recipes to local tastes and deliver the finished products in a timely and efficient manner. In the United States, Heinz makes its flagship ketchup in factories in Fremont, Ohio; Muscatine, Iowa; and Stockton, California."
Now, to sum that all up into a couple easy to read bites...
-- Heinz has workers overseas because it serves overseas markets.
-- Most of Heinz's sales are overseas.
-- It's stupid for a food company to make everything in the US and then ship it thousands of miles to markets.
Spoken like someone who didn't bother to read the Snopes refutation that was included above.
So, for your (hopefully) reading pleasure:
Moreover, the Heinz Company's operations are not an example of the type of outsourcing that is currently a hot political issue (i.e., sending out work to offshore companies to provide services which a company might otherwise have employed its own staff to perform).Heinz is a U.S.-based global business which sells its products in dozens of other countries, and like other food companies it has to localize some of its production at factories located in its foreign market areas. (It makes little sense from either an economic or a freshness standpoint to be shipping fruits and vegetables and/or finished food products halfway around the world rather than producing them locally.) One wouldn't expect, for example, every can and bottle of Coca-Cola sold anywhere in the world — whether it be Australia, China, or Portugal — to be produced by U.S. bottlers.)
As the H.J. Heinz Company notes, well over half its sales come from foreign markets, and it therefore operates overseas facilities to serve those markets:
Currently, 60% of the sales of the H.J. Heinz Company are outside the United States and to accommodate those customers by providing facilities closer to those markets, the company maintains a number of overseas facilities that provide products for consumers in those markets. This allows Heinz to pack the freshest ingredients, tailor its recipes to local tastes and deliver the finished products in a timely and efficient manner. In the United States, Heinz makes its flagship ketchup in factories in Fremont, Ohio; Muscatine, Iowa; and Stockton, California."
Now, to sum that all up into a couple easy to read bites...
-- Heinz has workers overseas because it serves overseas markets.
-- Most of Heinz's sales are overseas.
-- It's stupid for a food company to make everything in the US and then ship it thousands of miles to markets.
Double Naught Spy
New member
deanndeb, you are obviously very naive about the world market economy. Heinz and Kerry don't control the Heinz company. It is going to be hard for you to speak negatively about Heinz if you use any of the American made products like Ford, Chevy, and Chrysler. Heck if you use any of the American anythings are are complicated machines, chances are that much of the product was outsourced internationally.
Jobs come and go in and out of the American market as they do out of every other major market. It is no longer cost effective to produce many items ONLY in the US, in part because many of the US companies have to pay American workers far too much money to make the product being produced be competitive in the market...and the Americans are always quick to complain about high prices.
Not to worry about Heinz. I am sure they only employ migrant American citizens to pick their fields here in the south.
Jobs come and go in and out of the American market as they do out of every other major market. It is no longer cost effective to produce many items ONLY in the US, in part because many of the US companies have to pay American workers far too much money to make the product being produced be competitive in the market...and the Americans are always quick to complain about high prices.
Not to worry about Heinz. I am sure they only employ migrant American citizens to pick their fields here in the south.