The New Smith & Wesson lock

azredhawk44

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I saw a 4" model 629 I REALLY want at the gunstore this last week.

But, I really DON'T want the lock. It's not necessary/mandatory in Arizona.

Would it be immoral/unethical/possible to ask a gunsmith here in town to remove the lock mechanism from the gun and seal the hole somehow?

Can it be done in a way that is neat and reliable?

Or should I just go to a gun show and pick up a used one?
 
You can't even find a pic of it on S&W's site because it is so fugly.

It is a keyhole in the sideplate above the cylinder release. It is open to dirt, powder residue and other foreign objects. I dread what would happen if sand got into it.

Anyone have a pic of the S&W lock? I can't find one.
 
It is open to dirt, powder residue and other foreign objects. I dread what would happen if sand got into it.

Nothing...i

The only new S&W I have seen disabled by condtions was dropped in a glacial stream. Silt got in everywhere not just the lock

If ya compalin about the political correctness of the loclk, then Boycott every handguin maker, they are have politically correct guns (ecxept Colt)

WildlockslcesandsillinessAlaska
 
I'm not saying that I am boycotting smith.

I don't want the lock though.

Can the lock be removed by a gunsmith in a safe and reliable manner? Will a gunsmith agree to do this? Can the hole be sealed?

Or am I better off just finding an older smith 629?
 
get an older one just from a liability standpoint. God forbid you shot someone with it and their lawyer goes on about how you disabled a safety device.

David
 
meanoldman wrote, "God forbid you shot someone with it and their lawyer goes on about how you disabled a safety device". This raises the question if you unlocked the revolver and then shot someone with it (the only way to do so), would that qualify as disabling a safety device? The result is the same; the lock is disabled and you shot someone. Now if some kid got hold of your revolver and shot himself or someone, the removed safety lock might be a point of contention.
 
If you unlocked it and shot someone that would just show intent, you aren't disabling it because it would work again with the twist of the key.
 
Or just buy a Sig;)

How about just leaving it unlocked and filling hole with silicone sealer. I only have a "Pre-Lock" Smith so I have no clue as to how the lock works so I am only guessing as to the feasibility of such actions.
 
I'm with Majic. There are plenty of pre-lock models out. You can probably find what you want nib or lnib if you do a little searching.
 
I have a large collection of Smith revolvers, and I go out of my way to buy non-lock guns.
There are plenty out there, don't settle for the lock.
 
PythonGuy - You said, " If you unlocked it and shot someone that would just show intent, you aren't disabling it because it would work again with the twist of the key" and I sure agree with you. My point is that the lock must be in a non-functioning state for the gun to operate as a gun. IOW, one cannot target-shoot, hunt, defend one's life and limb (to include shooting someone) without the lock being in a non-functioning, non-locked state. A self-defense shooting is an intentional act so whether the lock is "disabled" or non-functioning because it is unlocked or because it is no longer present seems to me to be beside the point. The removal of the lock, if followed by an accidental discharge of the firearm, e.g. by a child or some other unauthorized user, which caused bodily harm might well be cause for grief to the gunowner who removed the lock. I just don't see the lock or its lack having any logical connection to an intentional firing of the weapon since the lock must be non-functioning in such a case no matter how it is rendered non-functional. But then, I'm not schooled in the subtle and sophisticated mysteries of legalism. It seems bizarre to think that if you tried to defend yourself and died because the gun was locked that an inquiry might find you to be acting legally within your rights (posthumously) by trying to shoot a safely-locked gun but if you actually fired the gun you might be held liable because you used an unlocked weapon either by removing the lock or by "showing intent" by having it unlocked before using it. Yikes.
 
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