The new Beretta APX...

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Cyanide971

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Looks strange but, I personally like it. I was just thinking that Beretta might have made this by taking cues from the PX4 design. I just hope that once it goes into production they will make it into a family series of full size, compact, and subcompact models ala Glock, PX4, XD, etc.

What do y'all think?

IDEX 2015: Beretta takes the wraps of its striker-fired APX - IHS Jane's 360

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Here's another article about it:

http://www.all4shooters.com/en/home...9mm-9x21mmIMI-40-Smith-Wesson-IDEX-Abu-Dhabi/
 
I find both the serrations (the most widely spaced serrations I've seen) and the finger grooves to be rather odd looking. The finger grooves look more like shelves to me and don't seem like they'd be overly comfortable.

There's also a good degree of imitation in this design:

As standard nowadays, the Beretta APX is issued with interchangable backstraps, which also include grip panels, in order to better fit several hand sizes and thus remain viable to shooters of all genders, ages, sizes, and build.
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Ala P30/VP9.

it can only be disassembled when it is disarmed, and that's why a slot on the frame allows the use of a tool to decock it before it can be field-stripped by operating a lever found on the left side of the frame itself, right over the trigger guard.
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Ala M&P (albeit the location of inserting the "lever" is different).

the rear portion of the striker itself will slightly protrude from a round slot on the back of the slide providing a visual and tactile confirmation of its status.
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Ala P99, XD, VP9.

The APX is built around a serialised stainless steel chassis that hosts all the mechanical components.
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Ala P250/P320.

Imitation isn't a bad thing, but this is sort of like Beretta just looked at the competition and took what they liked and mixed it in a bowl to give us the APX. Won't be able to tell until we get an actual hands on.
 
I dunno, looks cool to me...or roughly the same as at least of the other striker fire guns that have flooded the market.
 
I noticed that Beretta intends to submit this to the Army as their other pistol for the trials. Could this be read as a good indication, the Army is going to go to a polymer striker fired pistol?
 
Herdman, it could very well be a possibility, especially since it can be equipped with an external physical safety from the factory.
 
I thought it was pretty ugly when I first saw it yesterday, but it's grown on me a bit. Then again, I don't really think any striker-fired poly pistol is particularly attractive. At least the rail/dustcover is slightly less obtrusive-looking than the VP9 or PPQ. The slide serrations are...interesting. They actually look like they would work very well for gloved hands. Wet or oily hands too. Will take a little getting used to visually, though. Bore axis looks quite nice, and I like the simple sight adjustment/removal feature.

Maybe Beretta will have it on the market before the end of the decade.
 
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I think Beretta played this thing right. They submitted the M9A3 and the Army said no thanks. At that point they figured out(or were told) which direction the Army was going to go. I am sure all along they have had this model sitting there waiting.

They may very well stand a shot. If the Army moves in another direction, I betting that one requirement will be production facilities in the USA.
 
...one requirement will be production facilities in the USA.
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That's been a requirement for many decades--maybe always.

Was this pistol at SHOT2015? It's strange we're just hearing about it now--and from foreign articles...
 
I agree with Austin. I originally recoiled at it, but there has been some good discussion about how practical those initially-offputting slide serrations might be, especially for gloved hands. The frame looks like the P30 which has been lauded for ergonomics.

I love my 92s, but this is Beretta trying to be competitive, and I love that.
 
There's also a good degree of imitation in this design:

Imitation isn't a bad thing, but this is sort of like Beretta just looked at the competition and took what they liked and mixed it in a bowl to give us the APX.
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Two out of four of things you listed (plus interchangeable backstraps, so ~2.5) have been on Beretta pistols in some form for many years. Then there's the simple sight adjustment/removal system Beretta invented for the Nano, which appears to have evolved here.

I mean, what pistol isn't largely derivative these days? Each manufacturer apes the features people like from their competitors with each new release. We're basically at the limit of current materials technology for what the majority of people want in a pistol (lightweight, one trigger pull). Nothing truly revolutionary is likely to happen until caseless ammo or some other ammunition/projectile/phaser beam breakthrough comes along. Just little tweaks here and there until then.
 
I really like it except the serrations are a little much, maybe if the just tones them down a little it wouldn't be so offensive. but I hope it turns out to be a good gun, but would rather see a big company doing polymer hammer fired like the p-07
 
Was this pistol at SHOT2015? It's strange we're just hearing about it now--and from foreign articles...
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Yeah, it is strange, but it's typical Beretta. Too many 3.5-hour lunches to get it out in time for SHOT. They introduced it at the IDEX show in Abu Dhabi.

I love my 92s, but this is Beretta trying to be competitive, and I love that.
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Yeah, this was quite the void in their lineup. I guess that leaves CZ as the only major company (I'm not counting Colt as major anymore) that hasn't hopped aboard the high-cap poly striker pistol train yet.

but I hope it turns out to be a good gun, but would rather see a big company doing polymer hammer fired like the p-07
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Beretta already has an excellent hammer-fired poly pistol in the PX4 -- perhaps the most underappreciated poly pistol on the market.
 
I have very mixed feelings about the slide serrations. I want to love them because I personally think many pistols could benefit from fewer and wider slide serrations. But I just think they're too tall, pointy, and narrow. I'm leery that this will make the slide uncomfortable to manipulate with bare hands.

In general though I think it's a nice, functional, if derivative design. If it's reviewed well and sells for a reasonable price I will definitely consider buying one, but I don't want to be part of that process.

I hope that the sights don't fall off.
 
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I guess that leaves CZ as the only major company (I'm not counting Colt as major anymore) that hasn't hopped aboard the high-cap poly striker pistol train yet.
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CZ actually experimented with one a good while ago http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg/chex/cz-100-e.html

It was generally not received well. Felt alright in the hand when I got to hold one, but I didn't get to shoot it.


More on topic, the APX to me is more reminiscent of the S&W SDVE series than any of the competing guns. I would hope the build quality is closer to a Walther, as I particularly like the feel of their polymer guns.

It seems the world is starting to turn away from us who prefer metal, hammer-fired guns
 
CZ actually experimented with one a good while ago http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg/chex/cz-100-e.html

It was generally not received well. Felt alright in the hand when I got to hold one, but I didn't get to shoot it.
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I don't know why I always forget about that thing. I never saw one in the flesh. Odd that it only held 13+1.

It seems the world is starting to turn away from us who prefer metal, hammer-fired guns
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Yes it is (or has). :(
 
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