The million who didn't march on DC

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Interesting, logical and persuasive argument against Rosie and the Million Misinformed Moms.
Jeff

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Wishful Thinking on Guns
by Sheldon Richman, May 2000

Rosie O'Donnell, mistress of ceremonies of the Million Mom March, couldn't have been clearer about what she wants for the American people. On ABC's This Week program, Cokie Roberts asked O'Donnell what she thought of concealed-weapons laws. Said Roberts: "There is some evidence that those laws do reduce crime. But you would be against them?"
O'Donnell replied: "Of course I'm against them.… This is not the wild west. I do not want to man [sic] all of the people in America. I want to remove the guns from the people who are bad and who should not have access to them. That's what I want to do.… I want to take the gun away from the bad guy."
So as O'Donnell banishes evil from the world, we must wait-defenseless.
That was the quality of what passed for argument from the people who spoke at the rally Sunday. Emotion, hopes, and dreams void of reason, logic, and facts. "I care," chanted Marion Wright Edelman of the Children's Defense Fund. These truly are people who cannot tell the difference between thinking and wishful thinking.
O'Donnell would be surprised to learn that the "wild west" was a lot less violent than some of America's cities are today, mainly because law-abiding people had guns and knew how to use them safely.
But more important is O'Donnell's approach to public policy. She is no serious thinker, but her statements reflect the thought process of many who would violate the right to keep and bear arms. An impressive volume of scholarship-not to mention logic-supports the idea that criminals are deterred from attacking people whom they suspect are armed. O'Donnell did not deny that. She merely emoted, "I want to remove the guns from the people who are bad."
Okay. How?
We know how: by mandating trigger locks, licensing gun owners, and registering guns. (That's what she and her colleagues own up to. It's hard to believe that's all they want.) It is incumbent on anyone who proposes a solution to a problem to show the connection between the proposal and the problem it is meant to solve.
It is less than obvious how trigger locks, licensing, and registration would "remove the guns from the people who are bad." Would O'Donnell please explain why someone who intends to violate people's rights through the use of violence (which is against the law already) will be deterred by gun laws? If that worked, the Million Mom March would not have been held. The 20,000 gun laws on the books would have long ago eradicated crime.
Will she further explain how the use of trigger locks will be enforced? Unannounced police inspections of homes, perhaps?
If there is no obvious connection between solution and problem and if the advocates of the solution refuse to draw the connection for the rest of us, we are entitled to assume that it is not a serious proposal at all. It is mere feel-good ritual. To use a subtitle from one of Thomas Sowell's books, it is "self-congratulation as a basis for social policy."
But it's more than that. If the Second Amendment trashers get their way, the new laws will have no effect on crime, except to exacerbate it by harassing law-abiding citizens who want to protect themselves and their families. The controllers will then go before the American people and say, "We tried modest measures, but they did not curb the crazy gun culture. It is time to ban guns altogether." The disarming of the peaceful citizen will be in full swing. Registration historically has been the prelude to confiscation.
It is instructive to realize who was not asked to speak at the big rally in Washington, D.C. Among all those victims of gun violence, wasn't there room for one speaker whose life was saved by a gun? (Guns are used to thwart crime at least a million times a year.) Could the organizers not find one person whose loved one might have been saved by a gun? People like that, the Second Amendment Sisters, were across the mall holding their own modest rally in support of the right to own guns.
But they were scoffed at by the wishful thinkers who were too busy patting themselves on the back.
Sheldon Richman is senior fellow at The Future of Freedom Foundation in Fairfax, Va. (www.fff.org), and editor of Ideas on Liberty magazine.
 
"If the Second Amendment trashers get their way, the new laws will have no effect on crime, except to exacerbate it by harassing law-abiding citizens who want to protect themselves and their families. The controllers will then go before the American people and say, "We tried modest measures, but they did not curb the crazy gun culture. It is time to ban guns altogether."

Could not have expressed it better. Wish everyone of the sheeple could read and understand that.



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Richard

The debate is not about guns,
but rather who has the ultimate power to rule,
the People or Government.
RKBA!
 
And more "critical thinking" from Rosie, a comment by her on the day of the MMM was that there are 20,000 gun laws and 250 million guns so the guns are winning! Just goes to show you don't need much intelligence to make a lot of money.
 
Yeah, Bullseye!! I had wondered if anyone else caught that part. So she's saying that gun control is not at a "reasonable" level until there are 250 million different gun laws on the books? Huh?????? More than anything else, that shows her stupidity.

BTW, the BIGGEST lies Rosie told in that interview:

1. There is a gun show loophole, because anywhere else besides a gun show you must pass a background check. Huh? We all know the same 4473 and NICS check are completed at gun shows just like everywhere else. Flat out LIE.

2. [Implied] Trigger locks will reduce injury and death. Wrong. MANDATED trigger locks will kill many more people than such a law saves, due to the unavailability of a protection gun precisely when you need it.

3. "We're just people who care about an issue. The NRA is comprised of a huge powerful gun industry. It's common-sense people vs. big business." Wrong again. The reason NRA is so powerful is because it's comprised of PEOPLE who care about an issue as well, and it just so happens that we boast approx. 4 million members to HCI's what, 150 thousand? It's no contest. WE ARE THE NRA. Not big business. Not the gun industry. What a lie.
 
Calmly, folks, let's think about this. Something's fishy.

1) If Rosie's this dumb, I don't believe she could survive in her environment without someone backing her, supporting her, financing her, making her decisions for her, and actively supporting what passes for a thought process. If she is the fool she appears to be, she must be the puppet mouthpiece for some person or group of people with real power.

2) If nobody's backing Rosie, then she's a genius who is merely acting stupid. She has created so much controversy, so often, that she would be gone if she were a liability to her sponsors and networks. Perhaps we have underestimated Rosie because of her public "persona". (gag!)

Reading "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu makes me think there is *something* more to this entire charade than we have discovered to date.

Note she has created a huge following, she has a TV show that apparently is doing well enough to attract sponsors, etc.

Bottom line? She's a lot wealthier than I am. She's doing *something* smarter than I am! Or she's a very calculating stooge for someone who keeps her in the public eye. Even then, she's smart enough to take advantage of her supporter(s).

I'm beginning to think we may have underestimated Rosie. We surely have underestimated her ability to make money, to stay in the public eye, and to be a thorn in the robes of Liberty.
 
Dennis, a couple of counterpoints. Money in and of itself has no correlation to intelligence. "Nothing so gives the illusion of intelligence as the close, personal association with large sums of money," (John Kenneth Gailbrath). Remember, too, that she makes her living feeding off of emotions, not
facts.

She's not alone. Look no further than Rob Reiner. Years back, I thought the nickname
"meathead" was just part of the show's script. I didn't realize it was reality-based entertainment.

I work in a "creative" business, and find that most creatives get into the field because they love it, but also because they're not sharp enough to cut it in another line of work. If I packed my studio with all of the "creatives" I work with, I'd have less
thought power than a Commodore 64.

Dick
 
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