The Media Still Does Not Get It

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Deliberate obtuseness I say:

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/16/16544310-why-gun-groups-say-no-way-to-assault-weapons-ban

Why gun groups say 'no way' to assault weapons ban
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“If someone can show me how it can save lives, we’ll look at anything,” said Jim Irvine, chairman of the Buckeye Firearms Association. He remains unconvinced, however, that an assault weapons ban would have done anything to prevent mass shootings like that in Newtown, Conn.
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“A lot of them, it’s just kind of fun to go out and shoot,” said Meyer. His store sold out of the 150 AR-style weapons it had in stock within three days of the shooting in Newtown. “And then also the high-capacity magazine, that’s fun to have.”

“Semi-autos are just one of the most fun to go out and shoot when it comes to the recreation of it,” Meyer said.
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So according to the article gun groups don't want to ban guns becuase they are fun to shoot and it won't stop mass slayings. Clearly someone does not understand the argument or wishes not to.
 
If someone wanted to ban cars capable of going 150mph, I might say that some of them are fun to drive, and that's why people want them. I think it's reasonable to include "fun to shoot" in the reasons why someone would want an AR, without that being the main reason, or only reason. Too often, you hear only the part of an interview that the interviewer wants you to hear.
 
Hmmm... I just read the article you linked and I thought it was quite balanced. Though it didn't bring up Second Amendment issues per se, it gave a lot of space to reasonable quotes from gun enthusiasts. I don't have a problem with the article as a whole. ALL of our favorite points don't have to be covered in EVERY article...
 
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So, the day after our infamous NY gun ban the NY Post, usually considered to be a "Conservative" paper prints this story.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/new_law_has_lot_of_holes_BORK25RPsC6r4jNwBUpdVK

It's funny (see me laughing?) that they now point out that banning a firearm because it has a pistol grip is ludicrous but with the slant that they should also ban the model without the pistol grip. They also present the argument that limiting the number of bullets in a magazine is useless since it's so easy to change mags and seem to suggest that the number of magazines you can own should also be limited.

And so it goes......
 
I still don't understand why no mass shootings have occured with actual "machine guns". Something just doesnt make sense.

I mean..as destructive as they are..some kid or adult should have used them by now. Anyone know why this is the case?
 
I still don't understand why no mass shootings have occured with actual "machine guns". Something just doesnt make sense.

I mean..as destructive as they are..some kid or adult should have used them by now. Anyone know why this is the case?
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North Hollywood shootout. It wasn't a mass shooting per say but a robery that turned into one of the most notorious shootouts in history.

Criminals manufactured their own machineguns to commit crimes but no one needs an "Assault Weapon" for self defense.:confused:
 
The media does not want to get it. They want to change the world. They have an agenda and it is not friendly towards legal gun ownership by law abiding citizens. They are against all guns, becuase guns are bad and so are the people that would want to own them.
 
“The illegal guns coming in from other states are definitely still a problem,” said Jackie Hilly, executive director of New Yorkers Against Gun Violence.

“Eighty-five percent of crime guns in New York City are from sales in other states,” Hilly said. Statewide, about 60 percent of guns used in crime are from out of state, she said."


Good God... the ignorance is blinding.
That whole article made me vomit. It adds insult to injury.
 
Alabama Shooter, watching the news tonight made me want to throw up. Not one channel mentioned the purpose of the 2nd amendment one time, not one time. Is there no one person in the media spotlight that knows what the 2nd Amendment means? It seems every news network has the same agenda - guns aren't for everyone but they should be allowed for protecting your home or for sport. Does the 2nd amendment say anything about protecting your home or about sports? Of course it doesn't. Anyone with a high school education should know what the 2nd Amendment is about and realize we are being played as compliant fools. It makes me sick seeing the media not cover something as important as the 2nd Amendment.
 
Who do you think controls the media?

Who benefits from disarming the people?

This scenario has been played out several times through history and has ended the same way every time.

Wait, wasn't this one of the things the founding fathers were trying to prevent?
Hmm... I guess some people forgot to learn their history and now all of us are forced to repeat it.
 
Alabama Shooter, watching the news tonight made me want to throw up. Not one channel mentioned the purpose of the 2nd amendment one time, not one time. Is there no one person in the media spotlight that knows what the 2nd Amendment means?
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If that made you barf wait till you read this:

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013...-know-about-our-constitution-and-gun-control/

Article II of the U.S. Constitution clearly grants Obama and any other president the authority and the discretion to issue executive orders with the force of law over the sale of guns and ammunition.
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Really? I just looked and you know what "that" wasn't in there.

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html
 
The media is working very, very, hard to keep Sandy Hook on the front page in order to help Obama push his gun control agenda. It is usually very easy to see they have little actual knowledge of the subject. Just that guns are bad and kill people.
 
Former Under Secretary of the Treasury during the Reagan era Dr Paul Craig Roberts said it first:
The media is agenda driven.
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When you watch the Main stream media, you get the propaganda their owners push. Yellow journalism thrives today as it did when William Randolph Hearst gave us the Spanish American War ("Remember the Maine!"). It then comes as no surprise that the media is listings its credibility and fewer people pay heed to it. Cartoon News Nitwits has the lowest ratings it ever had.
 
Wow, now I see why NPR fired Juan Williams. I knew he was liberal, but I didn't know he was illogical. I am trying to understand his point, but it is useless. Did he graduate college in journalism? I would think not.

At least some of the other liberal's articles make sense, even though I disagree greatly with them.

Is there one journalist out there that a 2nd Amend supporter can respect? Why I am sick is the fact that we have no one on our side that is respectable. Lou Dobbs is somewhat respectable. I am sure he'll be gone soon. Almost all mainstream journalists are puppets of the owners. Sad time in America.
 
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The media does not want to get it. They want to change the world. They have an agenda and it is not friendly towards legal gun ownership by law abiding citizens. They are against all guns, becuase guns are bad and so are the people that would want to own them.
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I believe this is very true. The media helped this president become re-elected. They did their best to hide as much of Obama's real past and agenda and they openly ridicule any opposition. Now, they are basking in the glow of this success, they're emboldened and think they can now change parts of the Constitution/Bill of Rights they disagree with. The 2nd has always been a topic of their ire, and apparently the medias feel powerful enough to take it on.
 
The Media gets it. The Media has a strong anti 2nd Amendment agenda.

1. They don't own guns.
2. They don't know anyone who owns guns.
3. They live in cities.
4. Specifically they live in New York.
 
Media has gone from a news reporting business to the new format of news entertainment. They are competing with all the talk shows for ratings and have to lower themselves to mindless banter and biased reporting to bring in their own "entertainers" (formerly guest experts) to support their agenda based stories. What happened to reporting real facts with real statistics so the viewers could come to their own conclusions. What happened to "investigative" reporting on corruption at all levels? Has corruption been stamped out or has the media all been bought up by the powers. Hmmm. I see all sorts of data in these forums that would lend support to firearms ownership but I don't see it in the media world. I guess they are just happy to say whatever they are told to say. The first amendment is still alive but I guess they choose not to use it.
 
And the really sad part about the media:

There will come a day, . . . "they" will feel the muzzle placed on their "rights", . . . when the powers that be have finally gotten all they want or need, . . . then the media will be sent to the new Gulag or Auschwitz.

They will cry "first amendment rights" and find out that they were cancelled by EO, . . . by a czar, . . . or by the SCOTUS.

Then they will understand, . . . albeit too late, . . . that those 2A folks really did know what they were talking about.

Too sad, . . . too bad, . . . too late.

May God bless,
Dwight
 
I believe that (aside from being agenda driven from whomever controls purse strings at whatever the organization) the media by and large are not concerned about the second amendment.

Under current conditions they enjoy unparalleled freedom to do and say whatever they want, whenever and however they want, with no oversight and few repercussions. They have enjoyed this freedom for so long that they can't ever foresee it changing therefore there is no need to change the status quo, in fact there is a strong desire to protect it. It is great to have that freedom but it needs to be protected.
 
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