The Henry Bowman Brigade?

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A Cautionary Tale
Henry Bowman - Posted: 06.22.00

There are many lessons that History teaches, but much of the time those most in need of
learning
them seem incapable of doing so. The story of the Gordian Knot is a good example.
Briefly, a
legend grew up in ancient times that whoever could untie the Gordian Knot would become
the
ruler of all Asia. The problem was that the knot was extremely complex, and the ends of
the rope
were hidden within the bulk of the knot.

According to the legend, when Alexander the Great was unable to untie the Gordian Knot,
he drew
his sword and cut it through with a stroke. The expression "to cut the Gordian Knot" has
ever since
come to refer to a situation in which a difficult problem is solved by a quick and decisive
action.
What also needs pointing out, however, is that the means employed fell outside the "rules
of the
game".

How does this relate to the present situation in America today? And why does this
example fit
within the scope of an article entitled A Cautionary Tale? Here begins the lesson.

Over the last hundred years or so the socialist movement in this country (and elsewhere)
has
slowly created a political, legal and cultural environment which amounts to the equivalent
of one
team in a football game being allowed to rewrite the rules as the game progresses. Under
such
circumstances, there would be little doubt as to the final outcome. That there is a master
plan
behind the changes that have been forced upon the American people is not really
relevant here.
What is relevant, however, is that the Socialists are winning for one simple reason; they
have sold
us on the belief that we can only compete within the rules of the game. However, it is
this
assumption on their part which contains the seed of their ultimate downfall.

For most of us, going into court without representation would be a mistake. Without
training in
the nuances of the Law, and the art of oral argument, we could not expect to prevail
against a
member of the Bar. Yet if we knew that we were in the right, and that any reasonable
man with a
sense of justice would find in our favor, we might be tempted to try. Of such beliefs are
born the
outrageous miscarriages of justice that we see all about us every day in the mass media.
Invariably, the cleaver argument has won out over common sense and simple justice. We
learn
too late (and always the hard way) that Cicero was right; the more laws, the less
justice.

The mistake being made by the politicians and other usurpers of our rights is that they
believe
that we can be relied on to continue to play the game by their rules. This is because
those of us
who identify with Conservatism, The Right, the Patriot Movement, Libertarianism or what
have
you are overwhelmingly law-abiding, and have a well developed sense of what's right and
what's
wrong. We have difficulty in finding the logic in the statement, "in order to liberate the
village we
had to destroy it." Those who oppose us have no such problem. In fact, the argument
could be
made that their real intent was to destroy the village, whatever their stated motives.

We can find hope for the future by looking to the past, however. When the Barbary Coast
of San
Francisco in the 1890's became corrupt beyond the tolerance level of enough of the good
citizens,
the Citizen's Vigilance Committee came into being and dealt with the situations that the
Law was
ignoring. Our politicians and other oppressors have forgotten this fact, and it seems
unlikely that
they will remember it any time soon.

The Bible speaks of sailors reading the coming weather by the color of the sky, and then
goes on to
ask "how is it that you can read the signs in the sky, but you cannot read the signs of
the times?"
The emergence of the Patriot Movement is a sign of the times. The publication of writers
like
Claire Wolfe is a sign of the times. The growing sales and distribution of books like John
Ross'
Unintended Consequences is a sign of the times.

In keeping with the spirit of this last work, a loose-knit organization is proposed,- with a
mission
statement as follows:

"The Henry Bowman Brigade consists of a small group of people nationwide that has
collectively
reached its outrage tolerance limit with regard to the state of affairs in our country, the
corruption of our government, and the degradation of our citizenry.

"We have come together to say 'no more; this far and no further' to those who would
destroy our
great nation and the values which gave it birth. We have come together to pledge
ourselves and
all that we have to reversing the many destructive trends evident today in our schools,
public
institutions, governmental divisions and the fabric of social intercourse in our society.

"We have come together to say that we will pay any price, including the highest price, to
make our
country again into what it used to be, because we would rather die on our feet than live
on our
knees, perish rather than live as slaves.

"Finally, we have come together to warn those who would hold cheap our values, our
estates and
our lives . They will be judged by their own standard, and measured with their own
yardstick . We
will repay eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, and life for life."

Anyone may claim membership in this organization who agrees with the mission
statement. There
are no dues or meetings, other than a "meeting of the minds". Our banner is the Gadsden
flag: Don't
Tread On Me!

The rattler's tail is moving, but the tyrants aren't listening. The ultimate peril is theirs, not
the
snake's. Here endeth the lesson.


Henry Bowman
 
I'm betting this one gets closed.

Anyway, as a philosophical statement, there's not much that can be argued here. As soon as you buy into "political correctness" the Pinkos have the advantage. You're playing on thier field.

If you think the International Leftists don't know EXACTLY what they're doing, you're deluding yourself. They attack on all fronts and seek to define the agenda. "We" fall in to the trap almost every time.
 
Jack, I ain't touchin' that bet... ;)
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>"Finally, we have come together to warn those who would hold cheap our values, our estates and our lives. They will be judged by their own standard, and measured with their own yardstick. We will repay eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, and life for life."[/quote]
This is sufficiently vague enough to allow this to remain open...for now.

Let's all keep this in mind, though: The Firing Line is about advocating Responsible Firearms Ownership. This extends within the Legal and Political Forum to advocating the Responsible exercise of our Legal and Political Rights.

Advocacy of illegal acts will necessitate the immediate closing of this thread.

'nuff said.
 
UC was drawn up in another thread a few months back. And someone said it was dangerous, particularly the last two hundred pages.

What's dangerous is the collective response to a novel. If a group of people were to decide amongst themselves that they've but one avenue left for them to survive, so be it.

Does the fact that armed citizens protesting the pending execution of a convicted murderer, pose a threat to any specific agency of government, or group of people?

I do agree with the concept that a growoing number of people are fed up with the endless violations of Rights of citizens, and the outrageous handling of federal agents in their actions against citizens. This is clearly a growing trend. And it would also seem that these people are looking for some means of organization against this growing federal menace. A common form of organization is the local militias.

Best Regards,
Don

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The most foolish mistake we could make would be to allow the subjected people to carry arms;
History shows that all conquerers who have allowed their subjected people to carry arms have prepared their own fall.
Adolf Hitler
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"Corrupt the young, get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial, and destroy their rugged- ness.
Get control of all means of publicity, and thereby get the peoples' mind off their government by focusing their attention on athletics, sexy books and plays, and other trivialities.
Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matters of no importance."

Vladimir Ilich Lenin, former leader of USSR
 
I'm going to try to finish on the previous post. Look at the post time, I was beat tired, but too much caffeine in the system to fall out.

Organization in militias leaves a person in a very precarious position. You know, or should suspect that among you is an informant to non-other than your totalitarian brother (FBI, ATF, etc).
Anything you say, or do, is being recorded, and acted upon before you get a concrete action into place. Especially if you advocate a "peaceful demonstration", such as Shoemaker was planning last week. So, how do you form a group, with fairly common goals? Who do you trust?

A couple times last year, my FFL dealer suggested the possibility of forming a boys club, if you will. I haven't responded to his suggestions, and probably won't. Something smelled funny about the suggestion, kinda of like reading the memoirs of others in our recent history who were innocently roped into an illegal action by Federal agents, or their "informants". I suspect this to be the case. Just a gut feeling on this, and I can't back it up with proof.

A suggestion to our Henry Bowman fans here. Don't get stupid, and allow us to read about you in the papers.
I think the one thing very clear in the book, was that nearly all of Mr. Bowman's adventures was that nearly always, he did these alone. You know the parts I speak of.
That said, it is fairly certain that this would also be incredible difficult to do, if not outright impossible.

Best Regards,
Don

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The most foolish mistake we could make would be to allow the subjected people to carry arms;
History shows that all conquerers who have allowed their subjected people to carry arms have prepared their own fall.
Adolf Hitler
-----------------
"Corrupt the young, get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial, and destroy their rugged- ness.
Get control of all means of publicity, and thereby get the peoples' mind off their government by focusing their attention on athletics, sexy books and plays, and other trivialities.
Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matters of no importance."

Vladimir Ilich Lenin, former leader of USSR
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Mr. Tannis continued his litany against Mr. Stewart, stating that "Due to Mr. Stewart's unacceptance of the current gun laws, his prior conviction of 6years ago, and his
staunch second amendment beliefs, and his sale of the kits, with the kits being "inherently dangerous....because, "who know where the guns will end up?"[/quote]
http://www.sierratimes.com/arjj062200.htm

welcome to the thought crime era...
looks like Orwell was 20 years off.

dZ
 
I would like to know what is irresponsible or illegal about defending the Constitution with force, if necessary. Should we just give up the ghost, then try to win them back through the courts? I hope that isn't what you propose... If so, all is lost.

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"Vote with a Bullet."
 
I recall saying the last 200 pages of UC were dangerous, not because any of those things will happen; but people will complacently let things slide thinking "oh well, there will be a war later".

There won't. People who won't even write their politicians/fight on paper sure aren't going to risk their lives. Those who feel strongly enough that gun confiscations are wrong are largely (imho, the highest percentages) old guys that will be in wheelchairs in 20 years not fighting a war. And the next generation of LEOs etc. will see firearms the way they see drugs now (what LEO would refuse to arrest you if you had a fullauto).

Get politically active now. Getting gun bans repealed legally is the only chance.

Battler.
 
Battler said it right.

Quit theorising about turning CONUS into Serbia and start writing letters and getting active. Do this while it can still make a differance.
 
UC made me want to do everything in my power to help end the BS before that sort of confrontation becomes necessary. I've launched one lawsuit against my Sheriff's CCW corruption so far, another is brewing up soon.

That's what John Ross wanted, that was the whole point of the book.

Joining something called the "Henry Bowman Brigade" is seriously missing the point. For starters, Ross's Bowman would laugh at any such concept. Not to mention it's a perfect way to bring the Feds down on your butt.

Think, people.

Jim
 
Now where was it I've read about Leaderless Resistance? Anyone remember the tremendous public campain against NAFTA? Who's F-troop shooting this week? henry
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by theprisoner:
I hate to ask this but who is Henry Bowman? I have been hearing this name a lot lately and could no info on it.[/quote]


John Ross authored a novel, called Unintended Consequences. The main character, is one Henry Bowman. As defined above, he was involved in , shall we say, a confrontation with certain federal agents, as wellas a few very unruly civilians.
The novel, being fictional, opens up some Rambo typoe tactics, and adventures, that would make him a folk hero. Again, it's a novel. The reason I think it's so popular here, is that it focuses upon the 2nd Amendment..

Best Regards,
Don

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The most foolish mistake we could make would be to allow the subjected people to carry arms;
History shows that all conquerers who have allowed their subjected people to carry arms have prepared their own fall.
Adolf Hitler
-----------------
"Corrupt the young, get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial, and destroy their rugged- ness.
Get control of all means of publicity, and thereby get the peoples' mind off their government by focusing their attention on athletics, sexy books and plays, and other trivialities.
Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matters of no importance."

Vladimir Ilich Lenin, former leader of USSR
 
Blues man: "Let's all keep this in mind, though: The Firing Line is about advocating Responsible Firearms Ownership. This extends within the Legal and Political Forum to advocating the Responsible exercise of our Legal and Political Rights.

Advocacy of illegal acts will necessitate the immediate closing of this thread."

Which raises an interesting question: At what point does the "responsible exercise of our legal and political rights" involve illegal acts? After all, laws can, and on any number of occasions have, made the peaceful exercise of legal rights illegal... Unless you take the position that ANYTHING which violates a piece of legislation is illegal, irregardless of whether the legislation itself is constitutionally valid.

How far would the civil rights movement have gotten if they'd ruled out ever violating laws?



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Sic semper tyrannis!
 
Very interesting questions, Brett.
"At what point does the 'responsible exercise of our legal and political rights' involve illegal acts?"

I know exactly what that point is....for me personally. I'm certain that there is no hard and fast rule for determining this for everybody, though. It's a personal responsibility issue and a personal decision. All I know is that TFL isn't the place to discuss certain "Henry Bowman style" tactics.


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RKBA!
"The people have the right to bear arms for their defense and security"
Ohio Constitution, Article I, Section 4 Concealed Carry is illegal in Ohio.
Ohioans for Concealed Carry Website
 
I don't think most of us can run fast enough to keep up with the moving "line in the sand". . . . .

So join the NRA & GOA and start writing to your senators/congressmen!!


Battler.
 
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