The draw: reverse-cant IWB?

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speedfreeq

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I've decided on a Theis IWB for CC, and I think I'd like to carry at 5- or 6-o'clock. It seems a typical forward-cant holster is awkward that far around the back, but a palm-out draw feels pretty natural. It seems as if a reverse-cant left- hand holster might allow a firm grip and a natural arc from around back with the right hand, palm facing away from the body.

A couple friends expressed concern about the possibility of the plane of the barrel crossing one's body if drawing in this manner.

Does anybody carry &/ or practice drawing as described?

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Just make sure you do not touch the trigger when drawing and you shouldn't have a problem. That said I'm not a fan of any type of behind the back carry, there are just to many negatives. Do some research on the internet and learn.
 
I have a Ross Leather model 18 for my 5" 1911. A couple of its features might be worth your while. The belt loop attaches with a single Chicago screw and is fully adjustable for cant. There is female screw base on both sides of the holster, making the holster ambidextrous. There may be other holsters with similar adjustability..
 
left handed holster does work better that far back.
you can try it. won't hold it in but you can feel the difference if you flip it backwards.

I use crossbreed supertuck.
 
They are called "right-hand and left-hand" holsters for a reason.
Using them backwards smacks of Hollywood. Learn to use guns properly.
 
Your huckleberry:

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http://www.mernickleholsters.com/ps/ps6sobr1.html
 
That's exactly it, secret agent man! Thank you.

I shall "learn to use guns properly" carrying and drawing in a manner that feels natural to me, I guess. Thanks anyway, Bill.

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Well said speedfreeq. Those who think the forward cant strong side carry is the only way to go are drinking the kool-aid. I can draw faster with a palm out draw because I do not have to sweep the cover garment with an extra motion. I just put the back of my hand against my side, slide it down and grasp. The cover garment doesn't get in my way because it is not covering my weapon where I need to grasp it. If it's not done correctly, however, the muzzle can sweep the body. This could be a problem for autos, but I only carry revolvers so it's not an issue for me. I'm actually looking for a left hand cross-draw without a thumb break to use in the 5:30 position for my J frame.
 
Along with covering yourself on the draw, small of back carry can leave you paralyzed if you fall on it. Just don't do it. We carry firearms to protect us nit to cause us more risk and danger.
 
That Mernickle holster's claim that "It allows a draw with no strain on the arm what so ever. Also, this style will not allow you to turn the gun into yourself making it a safe draw. " is baloney!!! I have that holster for my Glock and it absolutely does allow for a you to sweep your own side with your gun. I have to concentrate on NOT sweeping myself when drawing from this holster. I don't use it anymore.
 
You know, I got in a hurry one day during a normal 4-count draw from strongside carry and jammed the muzzle of my pistol into my weakside hand during the draw. In retrospect, I'd probably swept my own hand with the muzzle quite a few times prior to that in an effort to be "fast." I changed how I trained as I result of that (I keep my hand on my chest until I am pressing the gun out instead of trying to "meet" the gun as I index).

Somebody who is going to draw palm-out from a holster style like the one pictured above is going to have to be methodical about their training. Methodical to a serious obsessive-compulsive level, if they hope to avoid pointing the muzzle at themselves during the draw. My first question would be whether I could execute such a draw in a safe manner AND be faster than a traditional draw. I'd bet that isn't the case for most people. And even then, I think I'd always be wondering if I could avoid sweeping myself as the stress level ramped up...

Just make sure you do not touch the trigger when drawing and you shouldn't have a problem.
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Eh... there are only 4 rules in gun safety. It seems to me that if you are going to violate Rule #2 everytime you draw, you are setting yourself up for failure.
 
The advantage of a palm-out draw from the rear is that it is far stronger on the upswing than a palm-in draw from the same position. I believe Mernickle has it's logic skewed, however, as a palm-in draw is commonly regarded as being much safer. I don't carry palm-out, but it looks like a good way to carry smaller framed guns. But as B. Roberts has just implied, you'd better be good, or be good at it.
 
In practicing the motion from small-of-back, I'm more prone to sweeping my upper legs with the muzzle with my palm in, as my elbow binds at the top of the motion.
With my palm out, I draw up and the muzzle naturally springs out, away from my body, at which I point I can rotate around the barrel and bring up to firing position, bringing my weak hand to meet the grip as described above.
The only reason I have considered this method is that I'm used to carrying weight at the small of my back from various outdoor sports, and my strong side elbow/ shoulder binds when drawing palm in from there. I'm still considering my various options, however. Merninckle seems to be the only company offering this method, and I was wondering about other ways to get there.. and should I just adapt my draw to what's commonly available?

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It depends on your size and flexibility, this is what works for me, and I have a shoulder holster I like also..
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I personally wouldn't call myself a fan of the reverse-draw carry but I think it has its good points from a concealment standpoint, referring here only to automatic. First, I believe it conceals better because the butt of the pistol doesn't stick out when you lean forward or bend over.

Second, I think it is easier to get a good grip on the pistol. The thing here is that with a really tight against the body kind of carry, it becomes more difficult to grasp the pistol without also grabbing shirt fabric.

On the other hand, I can't call the motion natural, especially if you ever carry any other way, but a little practice ought to fix that. I'm not sure you sweep the body any more than with any other carry method but I think that is a reduced risk these days unless you still carry a single action revolver. It might be more dangerous with a no-safety gun like a Glock or Walther PPQ. The particular holster will affect how all of this works out, too.

A similiar carry but not a reverse draw, is a cross draw with the holster carried behind the left hip. It conceals a little better but I have very long arms that still aren't long enough for an adequate draw (with my right hand) with that method. That is, unless you can come up with a clever (and fast) two handed draw. And speaking of unique draws, I one saw in a motion picture from 1947 a man drawing from his inside coat pocket an S&W Schofield revolver carried barrel up. Different, for sure, but I don't wear coats like that anymore.
 
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