The Dolt.

SaxonPig

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Many years ago before 1911 pattern pistols in 22 Long Rifle were so commonly available I decided to build one. I obtained an Essex alloy frame and using GI parts I assembled a complete lower. Then I mounted a Colt "Conversion Unit" on it.

It never worked well. It would feed and fire most of the time, and ejection was positive, but I could never get the slide lock to function so the slide always closed after the last round was fired. Bugged me no end. I wanted the gun to work right. Plus, the combination of clearly commercial parts on the upper and GI parts on the lower clashed. I sold the entire gun.

I bought another Conversion Unit (this was back when they were still readily available). I liked it on my Gold Cup. The CU has a flat rib on top of the slide and along with the sights this makes it look right at home on the Gold Cop lower. But I wanted a complete gun. I looked for a Gold Cup lower without success. Hated the idea of spending the money for a complete gun and then trying to sell the top part. For years I was stuck.

Then one day I was perusing the Gunbroker auctions and I spotter a 1911 lower being offered. It was made by Daly and it resembled the Gold Cup with a flat mainspring housing and skeleton trigger. It had the round Commander style hammer and I prefer the Government Model's long spur. It also had an extended tang and I don't care for that, either. But otherwise I though it might work well. Think I paid $160 for it.

The Colt unit looked good on the Daly lower. It did not work so good, however. Took many months of test firing followed by tinkering at the work bench to make it function properly. But eventually it all came together. It now works great. Feeds, fires, ejects, and even locks the slide. Yee-haw!

I put on some fake ivory stocks that I had engraved with a personal design many years ago. The right panel also has a small diamond inset into it. The stone came out of a ring I had after I replaced it with one with sentimental value (my mother's engagement stone) so on a whim I asked a jeweler friend to put it in the stock panel. Always wanted a diamond studded 1911...

Still hate the hammer and tang and need to do something about them. Also, the trigger is incredibly heavy, like 15 pounds. Need to have a smith try to tune it a bit.

Had never really shot a group with it before yesterday. The CUs were not renowned for accuracy so I didn't expect great things. Also, I am a very mediocre marksman. But it was better than I expected. At 15 yards using both hands and shooting rapid fire to overcome the heavy trigger it printed a 1.25" five shot group. The first 4 were going under an inch but there's always that one bugger that gets away. I think it can do better after some trigger work. Should be good enough for the gun's intended purpose.

Anyway, being part Daly and Colt I call it "The Dolt."


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Very nice.

I purchased a used Colt .22 conversion awhile ago. Like you, I'm looking for a suitable receiver on which to mount it. Haven't found anything yet. In the end, I may pick up a Sistema receiver and have it re-blued to match the upper. Won't be pure Colt, which is what I'd prefer, but the Sistema is as close to Colt as it gets without being a Colt.

So Sistema + Colt ... "Silt"?
 
I did the same thing, using an Essex (steel) frame and a Colt conversion unit. Mine worked very well and shot good groups to POA with very little sight adjustment. I put it away after while, though - it seemed to get dirty faster than any of my "regular" .22 guns, and was harder to clean.

Jim
 
I mounted a Colt conversion on an Auto Ordnance "frame kit". After tossing a half-dozen of the kits parts and replacing them with real gun parts, the assembled frame is a nice home for the conversion.
I have three or four mags, two Colts with metal followers, and one or two Metalforms with plastic, and none will lock the slide.
I was able to get occasional lock-back by using a 10# recoil spring and two shok-buffs, but decided that lock-back wasn't all that important.
I've heard that the mags supplied with ATI .22 "1911s" will work with the Ace or Conversion, so I might buy one of those mags, and see if locks.
 
The picture in your post shows the Colt conversion unit with the infamous 'floating chamber'. I've detailed my experiences with the Colt conversion unit elsewhere, (it really wasn't very good) I had the floating chamber lead up within 20 rounds of the cheap lead .22 ammo but though it was totally jammed the unit continued to function even though it could not 'float' any more.

What were your experiences with the floating chamber?

Curiously, although the directions recommended against it, mine worked best (for accuracy anyway) with Remington standard velocity .22 ammunition.
 
Mine has locked tight after fewer than 200 rounds, but I've also shot 500+ with little residue.
Most recommend using only plated bullets, as do I, but I've found that the hyper velocity rounds - Stinger, Velocitor - leave the least residue, and I'm guessing that's because the bullets have thicker plating than mere high-velocity rounds?
With Stingers priced at about double what it costs me to handload 9mm, I don't shoot them much, anymore!
 
.02 worth on the floating chamber. I had the traditional Colt coversion kit w/floating chamber, the ACE II with aluminum slide and non-floating chamber and a Jarvis kit. After cleaning the floating chamber after a shooting session, I swabbed the inside of the breech end of the barrel and outside of the actual floating chamber with Breakfree. I had no trouble with the chamber seizing up, but did always use .22 ammo with plated bullets. The Colt floating chamber kit was actually the MOST reliable of the three different types of .22 conversion kits I had. My kit, shooting carefully from a rest, would only group into about 4" at 25 yards. I fitted a match barrel bushing which did tighten the groups, but my kit never displayed the accuracy of some of the .45ACP and 9MM pistols I had.....ymmv

BTW, I like the Dolt. With trigger tuned to a more reasonble weight, and a few clicks of the sight to adjust the rear sight up and left, that's going to be a fun .22.
 
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