THE DEMS ABANDON GUN CONTROL

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THE DEMS ABANDON GUN CONTROL.
Gun Shy
by Noam Scheiber

Post date 01.24.01 | Issue date 01.29.01

http://www.tnr.com/012901/scheiber012901.html
If you were a gun-control supporter last spring, life was sweet. Al Gore and Bill Bradley were climbing over each other trying to prove their devotion to the issue. After a rash of school shootings,
President Clinton was taunting the National Rifle Association ("I'm just trying to keep more people alive"), and Democrats had practically shut down Capitol Hill in a push for meaningful gun legislation.
GOP aides worried that the issue would hurt them in November, and even Dick Armey groused that "it's not a good discussion." When Smith and Wesson announced it would accept a sweeping set of
voluntary safety regulations, the Republicans' fear was palpable.

Yet talk to Democratic politicians about gun control these days and what's palpable is the silence. Not long after the election, The Washington Post reported that "several lawmakers suggested that party
leaders may be better off playing down their support for gun-control legislation," a sentiment echoed two days later in The New York Times. Conservative Democrats like Marion Berry of Arkansas
confide that "[Dick] Gephardt has said [the leadership] is not going to whip us on [gun control] anymore." And even a reliable liberal like Barney Frank advises that there's not "going to be a major push
on this [issue]."

How did gun control, a political winner just ten months ago, become such a liability today? It didn't; the evidence that gun control hurts the Democrats is very weak. And, in the coming years, gun control
might actually help them considerably--assuming, that is, that they ever stop running away from it.

If there was a single moment when the conventional wisdom on gun control shifted, it was last July, on the eve of the Democratic National Convention. As Stan Greenberg, Gore's pollster, tells it, the
Gore camp took a hard look at the electoral map and reached an unavoidable conclusion. "The entire target of communication was Pennsylvania, western Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Iowa. That's the
world Gore was trying to reach," Greenberg recalls. Since these areas were chock-full of gun-toting union members, Team Gore decided that gun control would hurt the vice president in the states he
needed most.

After the election, the Gore campaign's hunch became Democratic gospel. Sure, Gore had won the Rust Belt battleground states, but the Democrats had lost their third straight bid to retake Congress--and
many in the party believed gun control was to blame. In particular, they pointed to the election's regional skew. In famously anti-gun California, the Dems knocked off three incumbents. But throughout
the rest of the country, they defeated only one. "Of all the issues," insists one senior Democratic congressman, gun control "had the greatest net [negative] effect."

Democrats don't deny that many voters support gun control; they just don't think those voters feel very strongly about it. Party strategists speak of an "intensity gap." "Guns are a motivating issue for a
sizable number of voters on the right, but that's not matched elsewhere on the spectrum," laments Gore spokesman Doug Hattaway. "Unlike gay rights, environment, and choice," argues Barney Frank,
"Democrats were disappointed when a pro-gun-control bloc did not appear." Gun control may have been useful in the early '90s, when crime rates were high, because it helped neutralize the Democrats'
image as pro-criminal. But by the decade's end, with crime receding, the only people who still deemed guns a voting issue were those who owned them.

The logic seems eminently reasonable. And it's mostly wrong. Start with the 2000 election. Yes, House Democrats did poorly outside California. But, with the possible exception of ex-Representative
Scotty Baesler's Kentucky district, it's hard to find any evidence that the party's support for gun control hurt individual candidates. Promising Democratic candidates came up short in inner-city Louisville,
suburban Chicago, and two urban Florida districts--hardly places where gun control hurts candidates' chances. Meanwhile, in Arkansas' fourth district and Utah's second, two places where gun control
does hurt, the Dems now boast two new representatives--one, Utah's Jim Matheson, who actually favors tighter gun restrictions. Though Democrat Paul Perry failed to unseat John Hostettler in a
competitive Indiana district, the Democratic challenger's anti-gun-control credentials were never in question. And most local observers believe that David Minge lost his seat in rural Minnesota not
because he was deemed anti-gun but because of his opposition to Social Security privatization and George W. Bush's tax cut.

Cross over to the Senate side and gun control may actually have been an advantage. Challenger Maria Cantwell defeated longtime gun-control obstructionist Slade Gorton in Washington, while NRA
lackey Bill McCollum went down in Florida. And even death didn't stop late Missouri Governor Mel Carnahan, also a gun-control supporter, from knocking off Second Amendment literalist John
Ashcroft. Meanwhile, gun-show-loophole restrictions passed in Oregon and Colorado, two generally pro-gun states.

The intensity gap, it turns out, isn't as clear as many Democrats assume. A segment of the population does indeed vote on guns alone and can be mobilized by the mildest proposed restrictions. But those
people--concentrated in the South and the interior West--tend to be deeply suspicious of federal power in general. From race to taxes to the environment, they detest the Democratic agenda, and they
wouldn't vote for the party even if it abandoned gun control altogether.

For their part, the blue-collar, largely Midwestern swing voters Greenberg was worried about support the Second Amendment, but they don't consider it a religion. Generally supportive of government
regulation of the economy, they must be reassured that Democrats aren't culturally hostile. That doesn't necessarily mean abandoning gun control (or, for that matter, abandoning abortion rights or
affirmative action); it means framing it in a nonthreatening way. As Clinton domestic policy adviser Bruce Reed notes, it's possible to support gun control while respecting gun owners' values. That's what
Clinton did so well. During his farewell tour last week, Clinton told a gathering of New York union leaders that, despite the state's strict gun-control laws, "nobody's missed a day in the woods in a
hunting season; nobody's missed a single sports-shooting event." That kind of rhetoric, as much as the high crime rate, is why gun control benefited Clinton in 1992 and 1996--and why it could benefit
Democrats again.

In fact, at the very moment the Democrats are running away from it, gun control as an issue is getting better and better. For one thing, crime is inching back up. For another, the administration late last
year won significant new funding for gun-law enforcement. Deprived of its maddeningly effective "enforce the laws on the books" strategy, the NRA will find it increasingly difficult to argue that new
gun-control restrictions don't help. "Last year they made a lot of noise about the alleged failure of law enforcement to go after gun criminals," says Reed. "I think we finally called them on that."

Look further down the road and you almost get cocky. That's because, as California State University Professor William Vizzard notes, the demographics of gun ownership are changing rapidly. Up until
the mid-'60s, most gun owners were shooting enthusiasts--people who inherited an ethos of gun ownership from their parents and grandparents. But the baby-boomers' coming-of-age and a subsequent
crime epidemic created a new breed of gun owner: consumers rather than "lifestyle" owners. Add to that a steady trend toward urbanization, and today the typical gun owner is as likely to be a
middle-class suburbanite as a rural sportsman.

In other words, fewer and fewer gun owners feel a visceral attachment to their weapons. And more and more resemble the suburban swing voters for whom gun control, if packaged correctly, isn't
terrifying at all. Too bad the leadership of the Democratic Party doesn't feel the same way.

NOAM SCHEIBER is a reporter-researcher at TNR.
 
Quiet now...

Just wait until they get a majority again. Once they do, the flood gates are wide open again. In 2002 they will promote other issues to gain voters, ignoring the gun control issues.
 
I don't think they are going to wait. The only delay in gun control legislation is going to be the time it takes the to re-package the idea as "reasonable" gun control legislation.

We need to study the arguments above and we need to start figuring out how to show the threat posed by this "safety legislation" when it comes out. The challenge won't be to debunk it - because any of us could do that.

The challenge will be to debunk it in a 30-second sound bite that the media will love and that accurately conveys the threat. This is the one area of the gun policy battle where we have to improve.
 
The Dems abandon gun control?

No such luck, at best, they are taking a little breather, which will hopefully convince us "right-wing nutjobs" that they have in fact abandoned it. Maybe we will let down our gaurd down and then they will come back and press for more. They will NEVER give up gun control. So long as people are armed, they can never be subjugated. This does not fit into the adgenda of the socialists, does it?

If the tide is in our direction for a time, we must take advantage of it for all its worth. Personally, I have exceedingly low expectations of our current president, but his administration might provide some breathing room that we can make use of, so lets do it.
 
In other words, fewer and fewer gun owners feel a visceral attachment to their weapons. And more and more resemble the suburban swing voters for whom gun control, if packaged correctly, isn't terrifying at all.

I've said it many times. The long-term goal of anti-gun-rights fanatics is the destruction of the Gun Culture. And they are WINNING. Once you take the emotional issues away from firearms ownership (the comeraderie and spirit), they become just another consumer product.

Then, when enough people are dumbed-down, just sign the "law", and the sheeple will go right back to sleep. WE are that LAST generation to be allowed relatively unrestricted gun ownership. By the time our kids have grandkids, the only guns left will be in museums, with DEATH the penalty for private ownership.

You heard it here first...
 
Bullhockey

"During his farewell tour last week, Clinton told a gathering of New York union leaders that, despite the state's strict gun-control laws, 'nobody's missed a day in the woods in a hunting season; nobody's missed a single sports-shooting event.' That kind of rhetoric, as much as the high crime rate, is why gun control benefited Clinton in 1992 and 1996--and why it could benefit
Democrats again."

Yeah, but plenty of law-abiding folks missed the chance to defend themselves in the obviously gun-friendly People's Republic of New York.


I think some of us in the gun culture have breathed a sigh of relief with George W. Bush entering office; however, I do not believe now is the time for us to let down our collective guard. It reminds me of boxing: just because your opponent drops his hands doesn't mean you let yours drop, too. If the left is putting gun-control issues on the back burner, it may only be a tactic to allow them time to reassess and regroup. Perhaps the gun culture should keep our philosophies and practices on the front burners, still.

And one more thing . . . just because they're selling it, doesn't mean I have to buy it.
 
It is impossible for them to abandon gun control. An armed populace is contrary to their world veiw. Even hunting rifles and shotguns will have to go.
We are wards of the State, cattle in the herd, and we are not to have access to high-velocity projectile weapons.
This bizarre neo-socialism they are creating offers a level of totalitarianism that will surpass Stalinism.
Even Stalinism could tollerate the various "peoples militias" in wich out of date military carbines were freely distributed to volunteers. Our Social Democrats and sell-out Republicrats would have a stroke if such a programme happened here.
The extreme and disturbing plans they hold dear and secret require total civilian disarmament. This won't change.

No resting on laurels!
 
I think the one thing he is missing is the prevalence of shall-issue concealed carry laws. Lots of suburban folks are starting to carry. As those folks become aware of the laws ("whadda ya mean I can't carry when I go into the next state?"), they start becoming a bit more cynical about gun control laws. And I think if you try to take their carry piece away, all of a sudden they get "viscerally attached" to their guns.

M1911
 
Hmm - I talked to someone who does CHL classes and the demand for CHLs has gone away - it was a novelty at first but most people who have them don't even carry.

IMHO this will be another of those things that people will stop caring about.

Battler.
 
democrats will abandon gun control when the sun rises in the west. No, they will go to ground and keep quiet until election dynamics change. Anti-constitutionalists can not allow the second amendment to exist as long as they push for a totalitarian government, either nationally or internationally.

No, they will keep quiet but not go away. I expect to see positive gun legislation come out, but as soon as we elect a new president or congress, anti-second types will appear and resume their vocal protests.

If we were smart we would extend CCW and reciprocity as far and wide as possible. That way when the anti-second types start mouthing off, they will have to explain why it is CCW has dropped crime rates. Reality has a way of chilling ideological zeal.
 
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