The 'Constitution Party'.

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The current farce we have with the election proves the need for a political party that expresses the intent of The Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

I suggest all Sons and Daughters Of Liberty visit The Constitution Party check it out and get in contact with the National Party and Your State Affiliate.

And yes, I was a Republican and I voted for Bush.

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Sgt.K

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I too quit the Republican Party and joined the this party. If any of you don't feel comfortable with the Lib Party, I suggest you look at the Constition Party.
 
Originally Posted by Gorthaur: Might as well call it the Theocratic Party. No thanks.
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Care to explain your position?

I'm looking for opinions positive or negative.

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Sgt.K

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I don't have time for nonsense. Why does your party hide behind names like "Taxpayers' Party" and "Constitution Party" when they're really the Christian Party?

We, the members of the Constitution Party, gratefully acknowledge the blessing of the Lord God as Creator, Preserver and Ruler of the Universe and of this Nation. We solemnly declare that the foundation of our political position and moving principle of our political activity is our full submission and unshakable faith in our Savior and Redeemer, our Lord Jesus Christ. We hereby appeal to Him for mercy, aid, comfort, guidance and the protection of His Divine Providence as we work to restore and preserve this Nation as a government of the People, by the People, and for the People.

The U.S. Constitution established a Republic under God, rather than a democracy.

Our Republic is a nation governed by a Constitution that is rooted in Biblical law, administered by representatives who are Constitutionally elected by the citizens.
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Then stop promoting nonsense. Your so-called "Constitutional Party" is blatantly anti-constitutional and anti-liberty. It's stuff like this that my ancestors left England to avoid.
 
They support religious freedom more than the Republican Party. Bush wants to give government money to churches. The constitution party calls that "Faith Based Fascism":

http://www.constitutionparty.com/Bushs_faith_based_fascism.htm

What they promote is a Christian philosophy of government, not a theocracy, explained here:

http://www.constitutionparty.com/constitutional_and_biblical_principles.htm

There's nothing anti-liberty about a bunch of Christians being politicans and talking about God in their speeches. They do not advocate violating anyone's religious liberty, nor funding religious groups, unlike the Republicans. If you want to accuse them of doing being anti-liberty and anti-constitional you'll have to be specific. What religous laws are they trying to pass? What relgious groups are they persecuting? They are politicians excersizing their religous liberty, and being guided by their morals.
 
People attacking the Constitution party as being anti-Constitution should have to defend their position, and being upset because the party is explicitly Christian doesn't count. Those of you that are knee-jerking on this issue need to calm down and read the position papers by the party. They certainly aren't advocating any establishment of a national religion, or burning atheists at the stake.

Actually the most controversial Constitutional issue that the Constitution party takes is the position that the 14th Amendment outlaws abortion, because it is a denial of life without due process of law. One interpretation is that the abortion issue, like murder, is solely a state issue, on which the Constitution give the federal government no authority. Until the "Roe" decision this is how all the courts ruled.

By the way I'm no supporter of the 14th amendment.

However, the Constitution and Libertarian parties are the only two parties that take the Constitution seriously. The drug and free-sex crowd in the Libertarian party tends to lose the Libertarians Conservatives that would otherwise be their constituents. Likewise, the Constitution party's explicit recognition of the religious basis behind their belief in good government drives away the atheist libertarian types who would otherwise be their supporters. If both sides were a little more rational they probably could join more of a coalition. Basically, there would be little difference between the two at the national level where the powers of government are clearly Constitutionally constrained. The real infighting would take place on the local level where it belongs.

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I'm for the free-sex party. It costs to much now.

But Big G. is correct, a party that is explicitly tied to one faith is not needed and has no realistic chance of success.
 
The Constitution Party takes the Declaration seriously:
"....endowed by their Creator...."

Seriously, they're hardly any different from Alan Keyes, who is our equivalent of Winston Churchill.
 
I think what Gorthaur is getting at is the fact that, for some of us -- and this includes some TFLers -- "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" is going to involve some things that, were the Constitution Party in power, would have to go back to the same dark hiding places to which they were regaled pre-Stonewall.

The "abortion, no -- Constitution, yes" wallpaper was really all I personally needed to see. Thanks, I'll stick with the Libertarians. I guess pot smokers aren't that annoying after all, considering the alternatives.
 
Abortion isn't a religious issue, it's a fifth amendment issue. When people waiting to be born can be killed for personal convenience, the only relevant question is "Who's next?" Who else can be deprived of life without due process of law? The issue isn't even about when life begins. It's come down to psychotic levels of denial of the existence of life. There can be no denial that a child one month away from being born is alive, yet it is no longer protected by the Constitution. It can get dismembered and thrown away in the garbage, as if it had no more significance than leftover Thanksgiving turkey. That should scare people to death. Those who have no problem with that should also scare people to death.

The logical conclusion of such moral presuppositions is a society where the Constitution protects no one, where no one is safe, because such a society is composed of killers and psychopaths, a society where therapeutic killing is considered good medicine.

It's interesting to note that the preamble of the Constitution talks about "securing for ourselves and our posterity the blessings of Liberty." Clearly, killing off that posterity is unconstitutional, and to make double damned sure, we've got the 5th amendment.
 
I like the Libertarian party a lot more than any of the others, but I think a party with a more gradual approach to things like education reform would have more of a chance of succeeding. This so-called "Constitution Party" obviously won't succeed, given the rather poor results for Pat Robertson and Pat Buchanan in their attempts at office.
 
As a rule, when a member makes a post implying that a thread has veered off-topic and that it should be closed, I will give the thread more time to see if the topic will steer itself back in the right direction.

This is the exception which proves said rule.

Closed. O/T
 
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