The Caliber Question

Hard Ball

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posted August 19, 2001 01:12 PM                  

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When serious riflemen get together an unending argument is what should the caliber of our infantry rifles be, .223 or .308?
That argument goes back a long way. In 1792 the War Department decided that it was dangerous for the new United States to rely on buying its arms abroad. Congress was persuaded to start Springfield Armory and begin the manufacture of muskets in the US.
After some discussion it was decided that the design of the French Model 1763 Charleville musket was superior tp the Brown Bess used by England.
Designs were prepared and everyone seemed satisfied with the basic weapon except for one burning question. Should its caliber be .69 like the French musket ar .75 likr the Brown Bess?
After great deliberation the caliber was selected and the first US musket, the Model 1795 went into production. There was agreat outcry from many veterans of the Revolutionary War. The puny .69 caliber would never have the stopping power of the tried and true .75.
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military people, hi brass mainly, has been a very conservative breed. Sometimes i think that the point is not the calibers, but the change that annoys them. As an exemple, I've read somewhere that there was considerable rejection of the Garand, because it would waste ammo a lot, before it was put to battle, of course. Another point is the military versus hunter point of view. A hunter wants killing power, a tactic wants disability rather than death, and not - or not only- for humanitarian reasons. A dead soldier is a soldier less, a wounded one is five soldiers less, himself and the mates that will carry him. At least in theory...
So, the more rounds a soldier can carry with him, the best, and that is the main reason for reducing calibers.

P.S. Don't shoot me, I have been in army myself!
 
Well, we all know that the 30-06 beats both, and we should go back to M1 Garands. :D

But I think we're stuck with the .223 for a while. It does it's job, I suppose.
 
mundumugu-

The Marines did reject the Garand and did not adopt it until actual combat experience showed the brass that they had been wrong.:cool:
 
Here's an entertaining thought...I'd like to see some gelatin tests comparing all of the primary US service cartridges as originally loaded (including round ball back to the 1803 Harpers Ferry rifles). I'd love to see a comparison of those permanent and temporary wound cavities! For brevity's sake we'd have to skip most of the civil war and late 1800's.....
 
Way back in the day I had a hunter's Ed instructor that answered every caliber question whith one phrase.....
"Blondes, Brunettes, or Redheads" :)
It just personnal preference if it gets the job done.
 
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