THE ARMOR IS STRONG... BUT BULLETS ARE STRONGER

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>THE ARMOR IS STRONG... BUT BULLETS ARE STRONGER



Overture: BY JOINT EFFORT


Today's warfare has become more mobile and intensive, with rapid fire exchanges at various ranges. In the
urban terrain and in the woods fire contacts can take place at an almost point blank to 100 meters and more.
In the mountains, plain terrain the parties engage at 300 meters and more.

In my numerous and frequent meetings with Russian SPECOPS - SPETSNAZ, SOBR, OMON - who take an
active part in action in North Caucasus and elsewhere, I am being told that both combat tactics and war
materiel undergo considerable changes. The era of massive automatic fire - the crux of the Russian post-war
small arms doctrine - seems to be over. To be superior in combat, one has to show superiority in accuracy of
fire.

- If you want your soldier to outdo a well equipped and well-trained enemy, you should provide him with a
better weapon, better ammo, better means of communications, - says Vladimir Feoktistov, deputy CO of the
KRECHET group of special designation.


During the months of August and September I worked closely with KRECHET helping them as much as I could to
get better prepared for the mission in North Caucasus. I was not alone in my efforts. The group found full
understanding and support from many defense enterprises here in Russia and the CIS. We got sponsor's aid from
the BELOMO - the manufacturer of optical devices in Belarus, the ALPHA State Enterprise in Moscow - developer
and manufacturer of specialty night reconnaissance equipment. The HOLSTER Company of Izhevsk offered
cold-weather clothing for KRECHET?s snipers. The Izhevsk Radio Engineering Plant provided the group with newly
designed radio stations. IZHMASH - Russia's manufacturer of the AK and SVD small arms systems helped them
upgrade issue SVD Dragunov sniper rifles with newly devised clamp-on bipods, new and individually adjustable
synthetic stocks. By way of experimenting, IZHMASH provided the necessary hardware to adapt high-power optical
scopes to the PKM and RPK74 machine guns. It was my special consideration that KRECHET?s machine
gunners could fire as accurately as snipers at extended rages over 300 meters. See for yourselves whether the
experiment was worth the trouble: now an RPK operator can easily hit an E-4 full-size target into head at 300 to 350
meters. Snipers now use more powerful 3-9x42 optical scopes, and say that these are the things they always
wanted to have.

There is another aspect in today's warfare: most of the involved manpower employ soft body armor or use light
armored vehicles for both transportation or shelter against small arms fire.

- To make your fire effective, you must
use those types of ammunition that can
defeat armor, - says Vladimir. - Why
shouldn't somebody get us more
information on what is going on in the
ammo industry? Frankly, we need good
cartridges.

When the group left for Chechnya, I
called my friends at the Barnaul
Machine-Tool Plant - the factory that
specializes in manufacture of cartridges
with enhanced penetration capability. I
said, I wanted to do a research on their
AP and special-purpose ammunition,
and got their agreement to assist. Two
days after, I was in Barnaul, a city of
700,000 people in Southern Siberia.

This is my report on experiments and findings.[/quote]
http://club.guns.ru/eng/barnaul.html
 
We've done tests with the Swiss Army service issue ammo and it goes
straight through 10mm steel plates at 100m. It will also get through a
steel plate and whack a pumpkin afterwards.

Do such experiments somewhere in the outback as the mess will be HUGE.
:)

Also, we usually shoot through a Class 5 kevlar vest at 150m with this
stuff. At 650 meters, it will go straight through a steel helmet, and
at 300, we've been told it would make short work of C IIa.

Flak vests have been invented to keep losses from grenade fragments
and ricocheting bullets down, they probably never were designed to
stop bullets or any other direct fire except maybe pistol calibers.

Also see the 5.7x28mm round for such features - the bugger will eat
through Class IIa straight withhin 200 meters.

I prefer not to be hit in the first instance rather than rely on a
flak vest.
 
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