I have decided that concealed carry is good for me ( I have been paranoid for some time of the big-brother-registration thing), but I cannot help but think that there might be a flood of businesses that post the no-firearms signs and I will be in a constant holster-unholster dance. What are the thoughts of the TFL legion?
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Texas concealed carry
- Thread starter Steel
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In reality there arent that many that do post the actual 30-06 signs. I have carried for almost 4 years now and I have to only deal with 1 establishment that does so; my employer. This could even be circumvented with a new job, but I havent reached that point yet. All others dont have the sign up. If they do you can bet that there is another business offering the same service without the sign near by. Money speaks louder than political beliefs. Lots of businesses got listed on the web after posting those signs and they lost $$ as a result of that. Even those without the RKBA mentality realize that leaving their guns in the car is bad juju so they go someplace else. Go for it.
I'm fortunate; I live in a state where signs like that have no legal weight. In fact I've never even seen one.
But if our local grocery store posted "no firearms," I'd shop elsewhere, and tell the owner why she no longer had my business. Of course such talk is cheap and I know it; nevertheless that is what I would do.
A web site for you to check out:
http://www.velek.com/bill/boycott/1.htm
pax
If men use their liberty in such a way as to surrender their liberty, are they thereafter any less than slaves? If people by a plebiscite elect a man despot over them, do they remain free because the despotism was of their own making? -- Herbert Spencer
But if our local grocery store posted "no firearms," I'd shop elsewhere, and tell the owner why she no longer had my business. Of course such talk is cheap and I know it; nevertheless that is what I would do.
A web site for you to check out:
http://www.velek.com/bill/boycott/1.htm
pax
If men use their liberty in such a way as to surrender their liberty, are they thereafter any less than slaves? If people by a plebiscite elect a man despot over them, do they remain free because the despotism was of their own making? -- Herbert Spencer
Steel, if you want to get your CCW, go for it. The places you can't carry will be explained to you at your CCW class. The places of business that do not want your firearm (or business) there will have an approved 30.06 sign posted in a visible location, giving you fair notice. Even in a liberal city like Austin, 30.06 signs are not that common. I have seen my share of signs that would no longer be considered valid (too old and faded or the 50% rule), and some that were of the homemade variety that have since come down.
However, I would recommend a strong lockbox in your vehicle for those occasions where you will not be able to carry.
The Texas Department of Public Safety website will have some information regarding the CCW laws.
However, I would recommend a strong lockbox in your vehicle for those occasions where you will not be able to carry.
The Texas Department of Public Safety website will have some information regarding the CCW laws.
I'm giving serious thought myself to doing the same thing. This morning on the radio, a state Representative (Jerry Patterson) was talking about 30-06 signs and such. Jerry is one of the original folks who got us concealed carry and is also in the plaintiffs with S G Hupp filing lawsuits against cities who sue gunmakers.
Mr. Patterson was very informative. Texas has a preemption clause in the Constitution. He was explaining that while PRIVATE property may post 30-06 signs and be legal, no municipality (except courts and a few other federally restricted places) may ban you from wearing your gun. First of all, if it is concealed, no body will know. Second, only the legislature may dictate how guns may be carried or worn (state constitution), and while private property owners such as 7-eleven or circle K might post a sign for which you must obey, the Capitol Metro buses, VIA Buses (San Antonio), and Metro buses in Houston have no legal leg to stand on to refuse you admission due to your gun unless the state legislature allows them that power for which they specifically have not.
Criminal trespass with a firearm is only applicable to private or restricted areas. You cannot trespass on public property during normal business hours. Key word is Public. Those 30-06 signs they post are a bluff.
Anyhow, I suppose as soon as I find a willing and qualified instructor, I'll take the course and pay my fee.
Mr. Patterson was very informative. Texas has a preemption clause in the Constitution. He was explaining that while PRIVATE property may post 30-06 signs and be legal, no municipality (except courts and a few other federally restricted places) may ban you from wearing your gun. First of all, if it is concealed, no body will know. Second, only the legislature may dictate how guns may be carried or worn (state constitution), and while private property owners such as 7-eleven or circle K might post a sign for which you must obey, the Capitol Metro buses, VIA Buses (San Antonio), and Metro buses in Houston have no legal leg to stand on to refuse you admission due to your gun unless the state legislature allows them that power for which they specifically have not.
Criminal trespass with a firearm is only applicable to private or restricted areas. You cannot trespass on public property during normal business hours. Key word is Public. Those 30-06 signs they post are a bluff.
Anyhow, I suppose as soon as I find a willing and qualified instructor, I'll take the course and pay my fee.