Tennifer and Hard Chrome

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Mylhouse

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Afternoon, ladies and gents,
How would you compare the 1) corrosion resistance and 2) the durability, toughness, etc, abilities of tennifer and hardchrome? Just curious what y'all thought.
 
Hi Dave:

Don't know about corrosion resistance but I've found Tennifer scratches much more easily.

Jeff
 
What scratches on a Glock, this is the most popular pistol with a Tenifer finish, isn’t the Tenifer but rather the black phosphate. Tenifer is applied into the metal down to 3 microns. The marks left by keys and such are easily removed with a solvent. Tenifer is one of the toughest finishes available. I’m not sure you can get it as an after market option.

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"Get yourself a Lorcin and lose that nickel plated sissy pistol."
 
Tecolote is correct! The black finish is somewhat protective, but mostly cosmetic. Hard chrome is right near the top in corrosion protection if you like the silver look.

Frenchy

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It was my understanding that the Tenifer finish was harder than a file and if you rubbed a file against it the only mark you will see is the metal that was left by the file. I had a scratch on my Glock, possibly from some keys, but with time the scratch wore off not the finish.
 
I have never peed on my smart carry, but my kids have spilled pop on my lap while on long car trips. This really rusts perminant dammage to blued guns :(

The Glock finish is immune to pop, sweat, body heat, and time. Glocks may have dumb looks, and trigger pulls, but great finish!
 
Hey, I use Simple Green, and hot water to clean my Glocks!! Just try that with a blued gun. ;)

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Yeah, I got a permit to carry,it's called the friggin Constitution.---Ted Nugent

"Glock 26: 17 rounds of concealed carry DEATH comming your way from out of nowhere!!! THAT'S FIREPOWER, BABY!!!"
 
Mylhouse, this is also not meant as a flame, but, you asked a question, these folks were kind enough to answer. Glock is the most recognizable handgun with tenifer. Thusly, you get the point. Tenifer on a Glock is the dull silver looking finish UNDER the black phosphate. Tenifer is not a plating like hard chrome. It makes the steel hard. Does not corrode at all. I think the reason you get the rep as an a$$hole, is because of what you just posted.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by denfoote:
Hey, I use Simple Green, and hot water to clean my Glocks!! Just try that with a blued gun. ;)
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Hell . . . I have a $60 Uberti black-powder clone that I found in a pawn shop. It's blue finish, and I wash it in hot, soapy water after I shoot it. Most black powder shooters wash their guns out in hot water. Blue only rusts if you let corrosives like powder residue (hydroscopic), or acids like fingerprints sit on the finish. Ammonia is hard on blue, as is the acid in soda pop.

Tenifer is hard as hell, so is hard chrome. Both are pretty much rust proof -- chrome probably more so. Rust is a different chemical process than corrosion. Chrome is probably more corrosion resistant -- depending on the corrosive agent.

Take a tungstun carbide alloy file to Tenifer and you're going to cut the gun metal. Tenifer is tough, but tungsten carbide is tougher -- tougher than chrome too.

Nickle plate is highly corrosion resistant. Stainless is too.
 
Hey Gents, I think he is just dismayed with denfoote. Mylhouse questioned his previous infatuation with the P99, and his untoward comments regarding Glocks. denfoote has now done a 180, and has not posted why, AFAIK. Granted, it may not be anyone's business but his own, but I am curious too.
I used to disdain Glocks myself, but I have learned that they are great guns for many shooters out there. I am just not real comfortable with them, FOR ME. I will recommend them to other shooters who ask me about them. And yes, I do point out the strength of their finish as plus. I generally don't care for "white" finishes on pistols; but, hard-chrome certainly seems as though it would be the most durable one.

[This message has been edited by VictorLouis (edited July 24, 2000).]
 
HC can and does flake, depending on the application for which it is used. My Beretta mags came HCed and have flaked around the back of the mag at the feed lips.

Tenifer is a heat treatment done under Nitrogen gas (from what I've heard) that cures/hardens the surface layer to Rockwell 69 (diamond is R70), at least on Glocks. Finish is parkerized/phosphate on Glocks.

I just bought a used HCed AT-84S w/ a matte type finish that shows wear, at least the the extent of becoming shiny.
 
Additionaly, some moron on an anti-Glock thread posted that SS is more rust resistant that tenifer. Not so! I own Colts and *&*s in stainless, and all show rust, unlike Glocks.
 
Then the question is:

Where can one obtain Tennifer as an after-market finish?

Also, is H&K's "Hostile Environment" the same thing? Or is it something entirely different?

Skorzeny

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Skorzeny,

I was told that startup costs are too high to make Tenifer a viable afermarket option.

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"Get yourself a Lorcin and lose that nickel plated sissy pistol."
 
My experience with tennifer is on Glocks, so I have to speak from the viewpoint. I sweat all over mine, and I bath with it, etc. Yep, I even take it in the shower, sometimes I wash it with soap bubbles when I am in the bath, I throw it in the dishwasher, whatever, and dry it off in the oven at 200 degrees (no it doesn't melt...silly question). It is simply impervious to the elements. You can even take them in the ocean for extended trips. There is no such thing as rust on a tennifer treated gun like a Glock.

I also have hard-chromed items. They rust. I have to still coat them with Tuff Cloth or oil to keep them from getting a patina of rust, even in the moist air. Far from rust proof. It reduces maintenance, but does NOT eliminate rust.

Stainless steel? We all know that it rusts, quite easily, no need to debate that.
 
Oh yeah, I addressed rust resistance but not toughness.
Hard Chrome, if not polished, sill get shiny spots on it, but it is pretty tough. I have seen it wear, but no one was ever able to discern whether it wore off, or just wore down a little.
Tennifer does not wear either. The black phosphate finish on a Glock will wear off if you practice your holstering a lot (a true Glockster should have a very worn gun...that means he practices with it rather than stares at it). But, the Tennifer will not wear off. The black phosphate finish will wear off on high points after a lot of abuse, and will reveal the Tennifer beneath, but I have yet to see anyone wear through the Tennifer finish.
 
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