I admit I love Chicago, but no way I would live there. Not only are the Police messed up, citizens are too.
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-bb22.html
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-bb22.html
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jkkimberfan
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BB guns/toy guns
I love guns and I own several but I am personally against any form of toy gun or bb gun. I think they teach children that guns are toys to be played with, that guns cannot hurt anyone, that they can be handled wrecklessly with no consequences. I don't think companies should make toy/bb guns period. My kid has had a couple of toy guns (not any more) and even though I told him not to point "any" gun at anyone, he still did, pretending to shoot. I would rather wait until he is older and I can teach him how to safely handle a real gun and respect them, that a gun is never a toy to be played with.
I love guns and I own several but I am personally against any form of toy gun or bb gun. I think they teach children that guns are toys to be played with, that guns cannot hurt anyone, that they can be handled wrecklessly with no consequences. I don't think companies should make toy/bb guns period. My kid has had a couple of toy guns (not any more) and even though I told him not to point "any" gun at anyone, he still did, pretending to shoot. I would rather wait until he is older and I can teach him how to safely handle a real gun and respect them, that a gun is never a toy to be played with.
Mad Martigan
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The guy doesn't know how to spell laser sight? 
Normally, I just read but I had to respond to the no toy guns comment.
I agree with Trip. I played with toy guns, and had a pellet gun and played with them as a child would. But my father taught me the difference between toys (the pellet gun was not considered a toy) and the real thing.
Same as when I was a child I played with toy cars, jumping them off ramps, speeding, flying down stairs, etc.. but when my father taught me to drive I didn't do any of those things (well, everyone has sped in their lives).
So, I don't agree that having toy guns will teach your children bad habits, but the child that has toy guns should be taught by their parents.
I agree with Trip. I played with toy guns, and had a pellet gun and played with them as a child would. But my father taught me the difference between toys (the pellet gun was not considered a toy) and the real thing.
Same as when I was a child I played with toy cars, jumping them off ramps, speeding, flying down stairs, etc.. but when my father taught me to drive I didn't do any of those things (well, everyone has sped in their lives).
So, I don't agree that having toy guns will teach your children bad habits, but the child that has toy guns should be taught by their parents.
FirstFreedom
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Wait a sec - someone please tell me that these illegal "BB" guns aren't just airsoft 6mm guns?
Wyo Cowboy
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Kinda remindes me of the sign in Orange County Airport CA pre 9/11 which refered to pepper spray as a "firearm".
Way back when
In the "dark ages" my parents allowed us to play with toy guns. Cap guns (pistols) and machine guns that went rat-a-tat-tat. But NEVER a BB gun! Other kids got BB guns, and used tham as kids will. My parents thought that was wrong, that it taught bad habits with a gun. I believe they were right.
My 14th birthday present from my parents was a Winchester rifle.
Those were fine days.
In the "dark ages" my parents allowed us to play with toy guns. Cap guns (pistols) and machine guns that went rat-a-tat-tat. But NEVER a BB gun! Other kids got BB guns, and used tham as kids will. My parents thought that was wrong, that it taught bad habits with a gun. I believe they were right.
My 14th birthday present from my parents was a Winchester rifle.
Those were fine days.
My siblings and I had BB guns as kids, and they were ours just as long as we faithfully followed the Four Rules. My father was of the opinion BB and pellet guns counted as real guns, just in a small enough caliber and low enough velocity that he (almost) trusted us with them. The very dire threats of what would happen if we failed to follow The Rules were enough to keep me in line -- I can't speak for my baby brother!
Toy guns, bro had plenty of cap guns (fun! gotta love that gunpowder scent!) and we all had squirt guns -- neither one was treated as a real gun because we knew the difference. Hey, ya gotta teach kids to distinguish between fantasy and reality!
Toy guns, bro had plenty of cap guns (fun! gotta love that gunpowder scent!) and we all had squirt guns -- neither one was treated as a real gun because we knew the difference. Hey, ya gotta teach kids to distinguish between fantasy and reality!
My wife dislikes guns, too bad for her
My son has had his share of toy guns and on his 9th b day, bought him a daisey red ryder bb gun.He is very careful and I've always brought him with me when I go shooting.He of course, brings his bb gun.When he gets older, he will get one that can shoot 22 shorts or long rifle ammo.That is how I was raised and it's how he will be also.He will have knowledge of guns,safety and hopefully pass that on to his son when he gets much older as well.Like it or not,its a tradition here in my family.
I got a new marlin 39 for my 13th birthday.My dad paid 75 bucks for it.I can still remember that day.It just takes a little time to sit down and spend some time with kids and educate them.They are not dumb.It teaches them responsability and safety, 2 very important life lessons.
My son has had his share of toy guns and on his 9th b day, bought him a daisey red ryder bb gun.He is very careful and I've always brought him with me when I go shooting.He of course, brings his bb gun.When he gets older, he will get one that can shoot 22 shorts or long rifle ammo.That is how I was raised and it's how he will be also.He will have knowledge of guns,safety and hopefully pass that on to his son when he gets much older as well.Like it or not,its a tradition here in my family.I got a new marlin 39 for my 13th birthday.My dad paid 75 bucks for it.I can still remember that day.It just takes a little time to sit down and spend some time with kids and educate them.They are not dumb.It teaches them responsability and safety, 2 very important life lessons.
I think we underrate kids. Most of them really are capable of following rules and making the distinction between play and reality.
In our youth, we too had cap guns and squirt guns aplenty. Christmas of my eighth year was fabulous as I received a "Dick Tracy Snubnose .38" that fired "shoot-em shells" and used greenie stickem caps. I also received the "Dick Tracy Shotgun" which fired a cap (one at a time) but was also a squirt gun with about a 20 yard range! Playing cops & robbers or "army" around our house was a huge amount of fun that year.
What did all that play teach us? Tactics, camoflague, the difference between cover & concealment, stalking, stealth, surprise, how to critique each other, teamwork and how to resolve arguments equitibly. My father sometimes gave us instructions on how to handle our toys like real guns, prepping us for "the day" when we had a real one.
With a mother who was against BB guns (you'll put out your eye) I had to wait many years before I obtained a real firearm. When I did, Dad reiterated the safety rules to me while looking at my new S&W Model 39 9mm pistol. The next day at the range, after firing it, he said he liked it and I'd made a good choice. After that day, I felt as if we were peers (but not necessarily equals).
Side note: Two of my contemporaries went to Vietnam. One returned. The one who didn't was the one who's parents never allowed him to play with toy guns -- or to play with us when we did.
In our youth, we too had cap guns and squirt guns aplenty. Christmas of my eighth year was fabulous as I received a "Dick Tracy Snubnose .38" that fired "shoot-em shells" and used greenie stickem caps. I also received the "Dick Tracy Shotgun" which fired a cap (one at a time) but was also a squirt gun with about a 20 yard range! Playing cops & robbers or "army" around our house was a huge amount of fun that year.
What did all that play teach us? Tactics, camoflague, the difference between cover & concealment, stalking, stealth, surprise, how to critique each other, teamwork and how to resolve arguments equitibly. My father sometimes gave us instructions on how to handle our toys like real guns, prepping us for "the day" when we had a real one.
With a mother who was against BB guns (you'll put out your eye) I had to wait many years before I obtained a real firearm. When I did, Dad reiterated the safety rules to me while looking at my new S&W Model 39 9mm pistol. The next day at the range, after firing it, he said he liked it and I'd made a good choice. After that day, I felt as if we were peers (but not necessarily equals).
Side note: Two of my contemporaries went to Vietnam. One returned. The one who didn't was the one who's parents never allowed him to play with toy guns -- or to play with us when we did.