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Tell me about Knights Armament SR-15
- Thread starter CrossIL
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KAC makes very high quality stuff...and you pay for it
here's a review:
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/11/guest-post-knights-armament-sr-15-e3-iws-review/
here's a review:
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/11/guest-post-knights-armament-sr-15-e3-iws-review/
Are they worth the premium? What make them better than the Rock River's?
I would take a lot of manufacturers over Rock River any day.
Bravo Company, Stag, Noveske, LMT, etc....to name a few
Rock River would be way down on my list of AR Manufacturers
I would class Rock River with Bushmaster, Delton, Palmetto State Armory, Spikes, etc....
TacticalDefense1911
New member
Knight Armament makes a very high end gun. Are they worth the premium, ehhh, doubtful when you can buy a Colt, BCM, Daniel Defense or LMT for about half the cost and it will go to heck and back. Its more about having the name but they hold their value very well.
P.S. Lots of AR's out there that are better then a Rock River.
P.S. Lots of AR's out there that are better then a Rock River.
precision_shooter
New member
Tell me what any of these would do for 99% of the civilian shooter that a Rock River won't do for less money...I would take a lot of manufacturers over Rock River any day.
Bravo Company, Stag, Noveske, LMT, etc....to name a few
P.S. Lots of AR's out there that are better then a Rock River.
Again, you will pay more for them too and they won't be any better for the 99% than the Rock River, or a DPMS, Smith & Wesson etc...
OP, Do yourself a favor and find one you like, find reviews on that particular gun from people that use them the way you want to use it, then make up your own mind. What works good for, and is considered the best by, the internet experts may not be what you are looking for...
semi_problomatic
New member
I'm not sure it matters... If you can't read the spec sheets and see which ones have the features you need or want then a $5,000 rifle wont serve you any better than a $600 one. I'm not trying to be a smart ass or anything, I'm about in the same boat. Still looking up what acryonyms mean with RDIAS and all that. As I try and choose my first civilian AR.
What I mean is, you're not shooting comp, or taking this thing into battle, or even building your own. So I'd have to guess that you'd put 200-300 rounds down the barrel a year...max. Why waste the extra money? Pick you up a $600 bushmaster from wally world and have a ball. I'm looking into a rock river elite operator 2. I like all the features it has and the way its set up, and for $1000 it seems like a good deal. I think Abel pointed me towards this one. Or at least to rock river.
http://www.rockriverarms.com/index....OKEN=41875830&jsessionid=f030ed2a698c5637f301
The only reason I added building your own is mil-spec to mil-spec and getting parts to fit.
What I mean is, you're not shooting comp, or taking this thing into battle, or even building your own. So I'd have to guess that you'd put 200-300 rounds down the barrel a year...max. Why waste the extra money? Pick you up a $600 bushmaster from wally world and have a ball. I'm looking into a rock river elite operator 2. I like all the features it has and the way its set up, and for $1000 it seems like a good deal. I think Abel pointed me towards this one. Or at least to rock river.
http://www.rockriverarms.com/index....OKEN=41875830&jsessionid=f030ed2a698c5637f301
The only reason I added building your own is mil-spec to mil-spec and getting parts to fit.
Therealkoop
New member
Tell me what any of these would do for 99% of the civilian shooter that a Rock River won't do for less money
With that mindset theres no reason to not just simply get the absolute cheapest AR availiable, regardless of brand.
RRA price isnt low enough to justify getting one over a BCM or Colt. They give pretty big quality benefits for not much more money. I shoot much more than 100-200 rounds off a bench per year however.
Sinlessorrow
New member
OP do yourself a favor and done listen to precision.
the SR-15E3 is the best AR you can get. it was Eugene Stoners final design before his passing.
the Bolt alone is guaranteed for 20,000 rounds some have hit 30,000. a standard AR bolt is good for 6,000-10,000.
the SR-15 also uses a intermediate gas length that is some where between middie and rifle and it is the ideal setup.
honestly the SR-15E3 is one of the best rifles on the market today.
the SR-15E3 is the best AR you can get. it was Eugene Stoners final design before his passing.
the Bolt alone is guaranteed for 20,000 rounds some have hit 30,000. a standard AR bolt is good for 6,000-10,000.
the SR-15 also uses a intermediate gas length that is some where between middie and rifle and it is the ideal setup.
honestly the SR-15E3 is one of the best rifles on the market today.
I live about two miles from their original plant.
One of my best friends used to be in charge of their law enforcement sales, I have met Mr. Knight and many of their current and former higher ups.
Their rifles are of the absolute highest quality. The guys and gals who work their take their job seriously. Every rifle they produce is one that THEY would gladly trust their lives. Their commitment to quality and excellence is unmatched, and they make the best rifles in the world.
Having said that, I don't know how much difference it would make to the every-day shooter. Just like if I bought a Lamborghini, I don't have the skill to really drive it.
One cool side effect though, it was always nice to wake up and hear full auto fire or the thud of a .50 being tested. Also, I always thought it was humorous that they had no signs up, no markings to indicate what they did. Very few people in our sleepy little town had any idea that one of the premiere weapons manufacturers in the world was based right here. There were always special forces, military, and government guys, both ours and other countries', running loose in our community.
One of my best friends used to be in charge of their law enforcement sales, I have met Mr. Knight and many of their current and former higher ups.
Their rifles are of the absolute highest quality. The guys and gals who work their take their job seriously. Every rifle they produce is one that THEY would gladly trust their lives. Their commitment to quality and excellence is unmatched, and they make the best rifles in the world.
Having said that, I don't know how much difference it would make to the every-day shooter. Just like if I bought a Lamborghini, I don't have the skill to really drive it.
One cool side effect though, it was always nice to wake up and hear full auto fire or the thud of a .50 being tested. Also, I always thought it was humorous that they had no signs up, no markings to indicate what they did. Very few people in our sleepy little town had any idea that one of the premiere weapons manufacturers in the world was based right here. There were always special forces, military, and government guys, both ours and other countries', running loose in our community.
Bartholomew Roberts
Moderator
I like all the features it has and the way its set up, and for $1000 it seems like a good deal.
Not trying to steer you away from the Rock River, which is a good deal at $1,000; but you might want to take a look at the S&W M&P-15T as well. It is at the same price point and has a lot of solid features for the price.
As far as the SR-15E3 goes, it is a top quality rifle. If you rebuilt the AR15 with modern engineering to address known problems, the result would look a whole lot like the SR15E3. The only negative thing I can say about it is that it uses a lot of difficult to find proprietary parts that are expensive as hell. On the other hand, if you are not someone who uses the weapon professionally, there is a very minimal chance you'll ever need to replace any of those parts.
madcratebuilder
New member
Sinlessorrow said:a standard AR bolt is good for 6,000-10,000
A typical mil-spec BCG has a expected life span of 15k+ rounds. You can buy ($130) mil-spec BCG's with a LIFE TIME warranty, because the sellers knows 99.9% of shooters well never get close to the life span numbers.
KAC builds a nice rifle but I would take a Noveske over KAC any day when it comes to factory builds.
precision_shooter said:Quote:
I would take a lot of manufacturers over Rock River any day.
Bravo Company, Stag, Noveske, LMT, etc....to name a few
Tell me what any of these would do for 99% of the civilian shooter that a Rock River won't do for less money...
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P.S. Lots of AR's out there that are better then a Rock River.
Again, you will pay more for them too and they won't be any better for the 99% than the Rock River, or a DPMS, Smith & Wesson etc...
OP, Do yourself a favor and find one you like, find reviews on that particular gun from people that use them the way you want to use it, then make up your own mind. What works good for, and is considered the best by, the internet experts may not be what you are looking for...
+10
"BEST" is very subjective when speaking about AR's.
A $600 PSA with the FN barrel would probably last as long as any high dollar AR made if subjected to the same conditions. The rest is just window dressing.
Achilles11B
New member
While I have no doubt that Knights Armament is a high-quality firearm manufacturer, how much of that price covers the Knights Armament rollmark on the lower? LaRue, Noveske, BCM; among others, make outstanding rifles that will outshoot and outlast most us. But, at the end of the day, your money, your call, this is just one guy's opinion.