Tell it to the marines

marine

New member
Did my 4 for the corps - get lots of e-mails from USMC vets. Thought you would like this one - Mac
The sender retired as a Master Gunnery Sergeant after 33 years of
distinguished service in the United States Marine Corps.

Semper Fidelis


-----Original Message-----
From: John
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 9:59 AM
To:
Subject: Fw: Revenge is a dish best served cold....



John Lee
Long Live the United States,
and Success to the Marines.
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 6:44 AM
Subject: FW: Revenge is a dish best served cold....

Over 30 years ago they put away their medals and their uniforms. They
buried their anger and bitterness and moved on with their lives -- and they
waited. Revisionists are trying to change history, claiming the returning Viet
Nam veterans didn't suffer all that much when they returned home. All
that talk of being labeled animals has been exaggerated over the years. But the
veterans know better. They were there.

On the radio last week, one man related that he had unpacked the
uniform that he wore home from Viet Nam all those years ago. It had
not seen the light of day for over 30 years.

He showed it to his children and grandchildren and, for the first
time, spoke of the day that he returned home from war and was spat on,
cursed at, and literally had to run a gauntlet of protesters who threw human waste and rotten fruit on him and his fellow vets.

With the words "baby killers" ringing in his ears he was warned by
laughing policemen not to retaliate or he would be arrested. So he ran. The
able-bodied helped the wounded as they do on any battlefield because
those on crutches or in wheelchairs were not spared the profanity and
bags full of feces that were thrown at them by the raging anti-war protesters.

This now middle-aged vet went on to tell his family that he had hid in
the bathroom at the airport for over two hours, bewildered and afraid.
He wondered if he had landed in some foreign land where Americans were hated. Finally, he cleaned up the uniform he was still proud to wear as best he could and made his way to his plane, where he suffered more insults from the passengers. When he got home, he packed up his medals and his dirty uniform, just as it was, and he knew that one day, he would take it out again and he would have his say. That day has come.

One POW stated that he had never put a face to the name until he heard the words "Genghis Khan" pronounced only as John Kerry does and
suffered his first flashback to the time he was being tormented by Kerry's words in a North Vietnamese prison camp.

They buried their anger and the bitterness --and they waited. Most of
them didn't know who or what would be the signal to make their move,
but they knew they would recognize it when it happened.

On July 29, 2004, it happened. John Forbes Kerry came to the podium at
the Democratic Convention and uttered three words that made many Viet
Nam vets skin crawl: "Reporting for Duty!" At last the time had come
for these long-suffering veterans.

The past was staring back at these wrongly disgraced vets from their
television sets. The face it bore was that of John Kerry, the man who
had shredded their honor without a thought and climbed over the bodies
of their fallen friends to launch a political career.

Kerry had stripped them of their dignity the day he sat before
Congress in his fatigues and portrayed them as "baby killers" and
"murderers." Kerry did the unspeakable. He had publicly turned on his fellow vets while they
were still in harm's way and American prisoners were still in the
hands of the enemy.

Kerry accused them all of being out-of-control animals, killing,
raping, and pillaging Viet Nam at will. The anti-war movement -- the protesters --
had their hero and he was a Viet Nam War veteran, an officer, a medal
winner, a wounded warrior: John Forbes Kerry.

Many Viet Nam vets buried the memories of their less-than-welcome
homecoming, and John Kerry moved off the national scene. The feelings
of betrayal had faded, but they were never resolved. The unprecedented
injustice inflicted on the Viet Nam vets has always lain just under
the surface, waiting for a chance to be uncovered. The war had stolen
their youth and innocence and John Kerry stole their dignity and
rightful place of honor in history.

Like an unlanced boil, the anger festered but there was nothing that
could ease the pain. These vets didn't ask for "forgiveness" because they had done nothing wrong in serving their country. They never asked to be treated
as heroes, just good soldiers. All they have ever wanted was the
respect due all the men and women who have worn the uniform of this
country.

Being allowed to march in a few parades wasn't enough. A long over-due
memorial was not enough. The Viet Nam Veterans moveable wall only broughtback the suffering as they searched for the names of their fallen friends whose memory had been defiled and disgraced by people who considered them rampaging killers instead of men
who died with honor for their country.

Now before them stands this man who would be president -- this man who
holds his service in Viet Nam up as a badge of honor now that it suits his
purposes. This man Kerry brags about his medals and his tiny wounds
and demands the respect they were denied, yet he offers no apologies
for what he did to them.

"I will be a great leader!" Kerry proclaims, because of his brief and
self-proclaimed valiant service while wearing a uniform -- the very
same uniform that they wore and were spat upon because of it.

All across America, soiled uniforms and memories of being shamed and
humiliated have resurfaced and Vietnam vets demand their rightful
place in history. John Kerry seems bewildered by the reaction of his
"fellow vets." He has become defensive and angry because now his
service and honor are being questioned. Kerry seems oblivious to the
pain he caused three decades ago when he stole all honor and dignity from
those same "fellow vets" for personal gain. Now he wants to use them again, for the same
reason.

All across America, Viet Nam vets are smiling. At last, perhaps they
can bury their demons. These angry vets are demanding that this man
who sentenced them to being shunned as criminals, tell the world that
he was wrong and that he is sorry for what he did to them. Kerry must
admit that he lied about them.

For many, it would still not be enough. Satisfaction and hopefully
peace will come when Viet Nam vets see and hear John F. Kerry give his
concession speech the night of November 2, 2004 with the knowledge that it was
their votes that helped defeat him. There are approximately 2.5
million Viet Nam veterans in America and they have not forgotten.

Kerry denied them their rightful place as heroes and they will deny
him his dream of the presidency.
Angry Viet Nam veterans, silent for so long, will finally have their
say. Payment in full will be delivered to John Kerry on November 2,
2004.
Revenge is indeed a dish best served cold.


_______________________________________________________________
 
Some things should be forgiven. Some should not.













For my part, I keep an eye out for those Vietnam Vet bumper stickers, and try to pull along side to say "THANK YOU!"
 
All across America, Viet Nam vets are smiling. At last, perhaps they
can bury their demons. These angry vets are demanding that this man
who sentenced them to being shunned as criminals, tell the world that
he was wrong and that he is sorry for what he did to them. Kerry must
admit that he lied about them.
He'll never be man enough to do that, but as Mr. Lee suggests, we must tell the world what John "Victor Charlie" Kerry is on election day. Nothing less than human civilization depends upon it.
For my part, I keep an eye out for those Vietnam Vet bumper stickers, and try to pull along side to say "THANK YOU!"
Another good thing to do is to join organizations like V.F.W., American Legion, AmVets, etc. to help support troops past and present, and to use the power and influence of the above organizations to help American youth become patriotic.

Even if you don't have time to be an activist, the little bit of money they get from your dues helps. People almost always underestimate how much volunteerism contributes to our superpower status. Quite frankly, I find it to be the one thing that fuels our country more than anything else.

American Legion

Veteran's of Foreign Wars

AmVets

I'm 1st Vice Commander of 1st LT. Benjamin F. Wilson (MOH) American Legion Post 159 Vashon, WA, if anyone wants more info on where/how to join up, let me know by PM or e-mail.

Semper Fi from an old swab!
 
Hanoi John, Hanoi Jane

SIGarmed - Younger members to the forum may not link the two individuals. And some may have no knowledge of Jane Fonda and her past.

http://www.usvetdsp.com/story8.htm
Jane Fonda (July 1972, 1974)

Fonda (1937-) began her antiwar appearances at rallies in 1969. Even today she remains "Hanoi Jane" because of her 1972 trip to Hanoi and her broadcast on Hanoi radio in which she appealed to American pilots to end bombing of North Vietnam. At scholarly conferences on the war, such as the 1996 conference held at the Vietnam Archives in Lubbock, Texas, her name still causes emotional outbursts. She actually apologized on ABC's 20/20 program 17 June 1988, but many of her detractors today have forgotten that or do not accept her apology. Her statement was to GIs, whom she never intended to harm. It is interesting to note that as a sex symbol in 1962, the Pentagon hired Fonda as "Miss Army Recruiting." By 1972, she had become radicalized (by the war, by her marriage to Tom Hayden (1972-89), and by her association with other radicals). That year she made several antiwar skits on film, including "Free (****) the Army." In 1974, she made a second trip to Vietnam with her husband Hayden. Two of Fonda's films deal with Vietnam: a documentary, "Introduction to the Enemy" (1974), and "Coming Home," a feature film for which she won an Oscar. The latter was inspired by Ron Kovic (1978). New links related to Jane Fonda continue to be posted on the Internet, especially since the recent inclusion of Jane Fonda as one of the 100 greatest American women of the twentieth century. Go to the Related Links section under Voices of Protest for some of these postings.
 
No matter what your view is on a certain war or conflict, how could you disrespect the sacrifice made by our Grandfathers, Fathers, Brothers and Sisters? Every Vet deserves the utmost respect.
 
Confined, you don't understand the left. RESPECT is not part of their universe.

They might admire a good liar (like Clinton) but they don't respect anybody or anything.

They don't even understand it.
 
I spent 3 months in downtown Saigon with HEADSUPACT, Saigon and 9 months with the PBR's in Long Xuyen. I also heard about the "baby killer" and stuff going on at San Francisco Int'l airport.

I did not have a gun, I did not have a knife, when I got off that big Lufthansa jet from Bien Hua air base. . . but boy did I have an attitude. I have always figured that was the day the Lord took mercy on those poor stupid anti-war demonstrators and sent them off some place else.

I did not go looking for them, . . . walked straight through the airport in my Navy blues with my head held high, . . . but if they had found me, . . . I had enough hatred burning in my soul that some of them would have gone home later after some "rearranging" of some of their features and appendages.

Funny thing, . . . of all the things done to me in my 59 years, . . . that is the one thing that can still cause me to feel my blood pressure start to go up. Forgive? The Lord told me to do so, . . . and I try, . . . but it is some kind of hard, . . . just glad I have never been put to the test to find out if I really can or have.

May God bless,
Dwight
 
Marine,

Thank you for that post!

I'm just one of those many Vietnam vets that were riddiculed, mocked and had garbage thrown at by fellow "Americans" upon our return to the US.

I'm also just one of many of these same vets who has recently dragged my uniform out of storage (still showing the stains from the garbage) and in doing so rekindled so many long forgotten memories.

Fortunately, the uniform doesn't fit anymore...

Anyway, thanks again for sharing that message - please send a message to your Marine buddies that we who have been down that road before them want to let them know that "We Will Never Forget". Never forget. Cannot forget. Even though it hurts so much to remember.

So many things must never be forgotten...
 
Good Post

Good Post. Im proud of all our vets. Take it easy, be safe, and God Bless.

Just one more reason, my vote is BUSH.

CZmatt
 
Will not honor the dead on Veterans Day

"We will not quickly join those who march on Veterans' Day waving small flags, calling to memory those thousands who died for the 'greater glory of the United States.' We will not readily join the American Legion and the Veterans of Foreign Wars." --John Kerry from his 1971 book, "The New Soldier" **To see the entire text of this anti-American diatribe by Mr. "Stronger America", link to http://kerry-04.org/new_soldier.php

After that.. what else needs to be said. Any veteran that supports John Kerry has a personal reason that is more important than the oath he swore to serve and protect this country from all enemies, foreign and domestic. Monetary??
Benedict Arnold was perhaps the best fighting general in the Continental Army, but he is known in history as a traitor. Some questionable medals cannot prevent one from being recognized as a traitor.
 
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