Taylors and Co

Anyone have any opinions on the revolvers from Taylors and Co.

I know they do not make their own, kind of like Cimmaron but was wondering about the quality and customer service?
 
+1 to what Denis says . . .

They are all Ubertis but imported under some different configurations by Taylor, Cimarron, etc.

If you are looking . . . do yourself a favor and look at Uberti, cimarron and Taylor sits and compare . . . .

I have three Ubertis - a '51 Navy, 4 3/4" 357 Bisley and a 7 1/2" 45 Colt Steel Cattleman . . . all excellent revolvers.

In the end, it all depends on who you want to deal with. Some offer different calibers, etc. than others do. I ordered my last two Ubertis through the LGS I have used for a long time . . . better prices than the MSRP, good service and about a two week delivery if they have them in stock. I couldn't be happier with my Ubertis. YMMV
 
There are some models or features that are exclusives. My Cimarrons are not offered by Taylor's or others, and Taylor's was the only one that had the birds head grip with checkering on the 3 1/2" 38 Special . My El Patron Belizza under the Uberti marque is quite unique with its engraved cylinder.
 
The quality of my Taylor's SAA Deluxe is great .

Their CS was good also .

I sent them an email complaining about the bad service I received from their stocking dealer in my area . They thanked me and sent me a unexpected tee shirt .
 
Howdy

I agree, all the importers get their guns from Uberti, and they are pretty much all the same quality. Every once in a while a real dog slips through, I had an Uberti/Cimarron Cattleman a few years ago that had the worst trigger pull I have ever experienced in a revolver, and to make matters worse the barrel was not screwed in properly and the front sight leaned over to one side. But that was unusual, pretty much the quality does not vary from importer to importer. Yes, some importers have different markings on their guns, or may have different options available, such as different finishes, but other than that they are pretty much all the same.

But I do have a personal experience that puts Taylors above everybody else in my book. A number of years ago Taylors was the exclusive distributor for Kenny Howell's conversion cylinders that he sold under his R&D label. That was before he started his current company, Howell Old West Conversions. But that is another story.

Anyway, I had an old EuroArms Remington 1858 that I bought way back around 1975 or so. When I found out about the conversion cylinders that would allow me to shoot 45 Colt in it, I was all over it. I could have just bought the cylinder and popped it in myself, but seeing as my Remmie was a much older one, I was not sure a drop in cylinder would truly just drop in.

Taylors had a service at the time where they would fit a cylinder to a Remington FOR FREE. I don't remember where I heard of the service, but I sent them the gun, on my own dime, and paid for the cylinder. Taylors actually had a gunsmith on staff (nobody else does) and he took my Remmy and mounted it on a fixture. He then took a new conversion cylinder that had no slots for the bolt cut into it yet, and mounted it on the fixture. The fixture located the slots relative to my gun, so the gun did not have to be modified at all. He cut the locking slots into the cylinder, then shaved off a few thousandths at the front of the cylinder so it would gap properly in my revolver. Then he sent it out to be blued. All of this was done with NO CHARGE.

When it was done he popped my original C&B cylinder back into the gun to make it a non-firearm again, put the new cylinder in a little box, wrapped it all up, and sent it to me, again, for NO CHARGE.

I actually chatted with him a couple of times during the process. His name was Tom. Dunno if they are still offering that service, but it was pretty spectacular at the time. NOBODY, not any other importer offers a service like that. Tom told me he routinely goes through the Uberti shipments and opens each box up to make sure the gun functions properly. If it doesn't he makes it function properly. Not an action job mind you, but he does occasionally have to take a gun apart and make it function properly.

None of the other importers do this. They all open up the crate, take out the boxes of guns, and put them on the shelf.

So in my book, Taylors is tops.
 
Thanks for the comments. I have a Cimmaron and Uberti but was looking at one from Taylors with engraving on the barrel and the rest on the gun.. (We all know this will make the gun shoot better :). ) Was just interested if the company was good to deal with in case of any problems. Thank again for the input.
 
Not all the US importers guns are Uberti. Other companies such as Peitta, Chiappa, Armi San Marco, and Pedersoli also contribute. I don't think Pedersoli makes 1873 single action style revolvers, however the others do. Probably most are Uberti but not all are. Many of Taylor's single actions use to be and may still be made by Peitta and they too are very well made firearms.
 
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I've not dealt with Uberti, but I do have experience with Cimarron and Taylors & Co. The only really significant difference, other than specific model availability is customer service. My experience matches up with others I've read about online: T&C was excellent while Cimarron sucked. In Cimarron's case, I purchased a brand new '51 Navy from a Gunbroker vendor, and when I received it I was unable to get two of the nipples removed from the cylinder. Tried everything, I even heated the cylinder in the oven AFTER soaking it in Ed's Red for a WEEK. Tried calling Cimarron (politely), left numerous voicemails and sent a few emails ... nothing, just silence.

I eventually paid a local gunsmith $25 to get the nipples out and re-chase all the threads.

Why Cimarron doesn't charge an extra frickin' dollar to cover the addition of anti-sieze to the nipple threads at the factory, I have no clue :mad: .
 
Why Cimarron doesn't charge an extra frickin' dollar to cover the addition of anti-sieze to the nipple threads at the factory, I have no clue .

Uberti has a long history of over torquing screws when they build a gun. I can personally attest to trying everything under the sun to back out a factory screw without buggering up the slot.
 
One thing a person has to remember is that there will and is . . always a problem with tight nipples . . . no different than tight wedges. It's common knowledge that they employ "Egor" to install all their nipples and most of their screws and wedges as well. I don't think you can fault an importer for that . . . nor do I think that Uberti is going to apply anti seize for one importer and not another. Yea . . . stuck nipples can be a #$%#$% but it does happen no matter who makes it . . Uberti or Pietta.

I've never dealt with Cimarron but I did have some questions on a 32-20 model that Taylor's normally stocks. We phoned each other back and forth for several days so I could get my questions answered . . I talked to both office and their "gunsmith". In the end, it didn't matter as they didn't have any in stock and all that were coming in wee spoken for . . . so in my book . . . that speaks well of 'em. When I get ready to pull the trigger on the 32-20, I will have no problems in purchasing it through Taylors.
 
+1 Taylors and Company. I have one of their 1873 rifles and it is very nice. Their customer service folks are also very helpful without any attitude.

I'll buy from them again when the time arrives.
 
I've been trying to decide between a Cimarron El Patron and a Taylor Chuck Wagon Deluxe. The LGS finally got in the Cimarron El Patron but I was very disappointed in a gun that was supposedly carefully checked over and "tuned up for competition". For starters, the action was what I would describe as "mushy". The 4-clicks were not even comparable to the crisp, clean, actions in my Colt and USFA's. OK, that's probably not a fair comparison. But the thing that turned me off this gun was the barrel to cylinder gap. It was so close at the bottom that the rear face of the barrel touched the front of the cylinder while the clearance at the top was fine. The rear face of the barrel was not parallel to the front of the cylinder. Probably an easy fix, but didn't think it should be necessary on a "tuned and inspected" gun set up for competition. This was just my experience on a single model. I'm sure a different one would probably be perfect, but for now, I'm looking for a Taylor Chuck Wagon Deluxe that has also received excellent reviews.

And as Driftwood Johnson said:
Every once in a while a real dog slips through
 
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I've been told by an outfit that does a lot of custom work on Uberti pistols that the only "tuning" the Patron gets from Uberti is a set of springs.
That's it.

They offer the model, with actual (and effective) tuning done in-house.
I shot one, quite nice.
Denis
 
Uberti has a long history of over torquing screws when they build a gun. I can personally attest to trying everything under the sun to back out a factory screw without buggering up the slot.

I have the same experience. On my Remington 1858 the trigger guard simply wouldn't go out, buggered the screw in the end. I took a drill to it, drilled it out, ordered a new screw, and had the hole rethreaded, a right pain. However other then that, the gun is first rate, really a pleasure to shoot.

My next purchase will also be an Uberti, but there's so many of them it's hard to decide.
 
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I have the same experience. On my Remington 1858 the trigger guard simply wouldn't go out, buggered the screw in the end. I took a drill to it, drilled it out, ordered a new screw, and had the hole rethreaded, a right pain. However other then that, the gun is first rate, really a pleasure to shoot.

Uberti screws are relatively soft, that is why they 'weld' themselves in place in the threads when over torqued. You can buy hardened replacement screws for most of the soft Uberti screws from VTI.

By the way, the name of the gorilla who roams the Uberti factory at night with his torque wrench, over torquing all the screws he can find, is Bongo.
 
I was just out shooting my Taylor & Co this morning,,,

I was just out shooting my Taylor & Co this morning,,,
It's their Cattleman's .22 with 5.3/4 " Barrel.

Click here please.

It's very nicely built,,,
But will need more breaking in,,,
Everything on it seems just a wee bit tight.

All in all I'm very happy with it,,,
It matches my older Uberti .357 near perfectly.

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Thanks, Johnson

Thanks, you learn something new every day. They mention that they harden Uberti screws at VTI, good to know that when I get my next gun.
 
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