Taurus Raging Judge and .460 S&W?

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RedBowTies88

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So, The raging judge is chamered for 3" .410 and .454 Casull. With such a long cylinder and with the max operating pressure of the .454 being equal to the .460 S&W why didn't they chamber it in that? It would surely fit in the cylinder and with the "jump" to the rifleing being decreased it would possibly be more accurate as well.

Anyone see a problem in having the chamber reamed on one to .460?
 
Don't.

I have no proof but for the love of god NOOOOO! If you value your fingers, hands and face. :eek:
 
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Max pressure in a .410 load is somewere close to 15,000 psi. Max pressure in a .460 is somewhere around 60,000 psi. If you do this, YOU WILL loose your hand.
 
The 454 Casull has an operating pressure of over 60,000 and a max operating pressure of 65,000. The pistol the OP is talking about is one which is chambered for the .410 and the 454 Casull. It would appear that exceeding the 15,000 pounds of the .410 is not really the issue.
 
Jhenry, you're right. I was thinking about the regular .410/.45LC Judge. I still don't think its a good idea though.
 
I was kind of thinking the other direction in my BFR which is chambered in 460, and I have shot 454 and 45 Colt out of as well. But is there any reason I couldn't put 410 shells in it? They make a BRF chambered in 45 Colt/410, the only difference between that one and mine that I can see is the rifling twist rate.
 
I agree. If it could chamber the .460 they would sure say so. In fact, it looks like Taurus makes it so it won't work.

Not that Yahoo answers are known for being 'on point' but here is one to consider:

The recently introduced .460 Smith and Wesson Magnum cartridge has the same diameter as a .45 Colt or .454 Casull, and therefore revolvers chambered for it will also chamber the .454 Casull and .45 Colt.

but not the other way around...Unfortunately the round sticks out 3/8" from the cylinder. Taurus tapered the cylinder so that the 460 would not fit. The chamber pressures for the 460 are slightly greater than the 454 casull so if the chamber pressures were a little too much I would assume that you would see stress fractures.

Not sure if I that applies to the same model, but I'd be more worried about the stress fractures you didn't see if it did work the first dozen rounds!
 
I'm not sure i believe that taper stuff, but i would have to seee one to be sure.. if it was true I'm sure its not a viloent tape as you still need to be able to shoot 3" shells. and you would only need to ream another .5"


a handful of people here all saying no dont do it without a single thought as to why. I clearly states that from my research that the pressures from .460 and .454 are the same so unless maybe its expericancing that pressure for longer i see no reason why this couldnt be done.
 
Max pressure in a .410 load is somewere close to 15,000 psi. Max pressure in a .460 is somewhere around 60,000 psi. If you do this, YOU WILL loose your hand.
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You know, I don't want to be rude but the OP was very clear. Please read these things before commenting on in a completely innacurate way.
 
a handful of people here all saying no dont do it without a single thought as to why.
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Because the risk doesn't justify the reward. :confused: .454 and .460 are close enough or get some hot .454s?

Because Taurus craftsmanship is lackluster and QC is spotty to say the least. I've had enough problems with regular Taurus revolvers to forsake them. but you want to place an even more powerful round in the cylinder?! You are braver then I. Hot Rodding a S&W or Ruger is one thing. Also if it does destruct its all on you what if you injure yourself? What If the cylinder fails and you injure someone else?
I clearly states that from my research that the pressures from .460 and .454 are the same so unless maybe its expericancing that pressure for longer i see no reason why this couldnt be done.
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Judging by this post I'm guessing your not a gunsmith either. Guessing isn't research. there are a reason for limitations in firearms, and very abrupt indications and dangers when someone exceeds them.

You asked our opinion here and many have advised its not a good idea. I bet you 99% of that was based of common sense. If these responses aren't to your liking I apologize.

If you want a .460 trade your Bull in for an X frame. Its quite simple. the whole .410 thing is just a gimmick anyway but whatever.

Whatever you decide be careful.
 
I'm just looking for a reason as to why, everyone says don't do it howeve NO ONE has stated anything about any proof about why.

Like i said, the operating pressures are the same, if there's more to it then that I would LOVE to be enlightened. However simple NO answeres because its a "more powerful round" is not enough for me.
 
Here's a reason. Taurus at one time marketed the Raging Bull in both .500 & .460 Mag. No sooner than they released it they dropped it from the lineup. Seems that the recoil is a bit too much for their revolver. If these cartridges are too much for the Raging Bull then you can bet they are too much for that streched frame on the Raging Judge. I own a S&W PC .460. I can attest that while the .454 is stout, the .460 is quit a bit more. Yes both operate pressures of up to 65,000 psi but with the longer cartridge the .460 can push the same bullet several hundred fps faster than the .454.
 
Well, they have made some great advances in both prosthetics and bionics, RedBowTies88. Knock yourself out.

Just don't do it in the lane next to anybody else.
 
OK, I should not be wasting my time!

Look at a baseball bat, most of the energy is ready for the end of the bat.

The closer to the frame is stronger. But overall streight is roll.

Bang here, not bang not here.

NOT THAT ANYBODY WWOULD COMPREHIND THAT
 
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