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I had my old Remington mdl 121 .22 out today and punched some holes in paper.

The rifle doesn't have scope and the target is a 3.5 inch (diameter) black circle on an 11x8.5 piece of paper 240 fet down range and looks like this
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The target is the litle white square in the center of the picture.

This
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is what the target looked like when I was done.

What do I do to make all the holes in the middle?
 
What sights do you have? With the original open sights, that is not too bad at 80 yards. You might also check the barrel for wear (you said "old") or any looseness. The Model 121 has not been made since about 1954, so that rifle could have a lot of mileage on it. One problem with those rifles is muzzle wear caused by over-use of a cleaning rod. That will definitely cause the kind of groups you are seeing. So will a very dirty barrel, so the cleaning question is sort of how much is enough.

Jim
 
Beautiful land!!
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Thanks, planted all the little tress myself about 6 years ago.

What sights do you have?
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Onthe muzzle there is a single blade that looks like an inverted "T" the cross bar of the "T" fits into a dovetail. The rear sightis two pieces of flat metal. The main piece has two screws that secure it to the barrel it runs backwards from there and is bent up 90 degrees to form the actual sight which has a slight "U" shaped notch in it. The second bit of metal is a notched ramp that slide in a slot cut in the first piece to elevation. I pretty much keep this set to the lowest (of the 6 notchs) notch in the in the ramp.

The barrel may be worn (but it is always clean - I have been using a bore snake lately) I took a .22 round (Remington Golden Bullet) and put it point first into the muzzle and it went in up to the first of the three rings at the base of the bullet. Lokking down the barrel (with a bore light - actually a mag light with the fiber optic attachment) I could see the grooves, barely.

I inherited the rifle from my grandpa (along with a .35 Remington pump, a 30.06 Remington pump and a couple of 870 Wingmasters - the .35 and the 30.06 have Weaver 4x scopes) and I think he bought it in the '40s. I love shooting it! The pump action is fast and you don't have to lose your sight picture when you pump it

I only got to shoot with my grandpa a couple of times before he went, but an thankful the opprotunities I got. Thanks Grandpa!
 
if you are shooting highvelocity ammo, somewhere between 60-80 yards they come back down through the sound barrier causing it to go slightly off. So try standard velocity. And i agree, that is not to bad of a group with .22 at 80yds!
 
Nice little herd of family guns. May they stay together through more generations of gunners.

An ammunition change may make a world of difference. Always fun tryin new things anyway.

Sam
 
Different ammo is probably your only low-cost option for improving accuracy. Doesn't have to be expensive stuff. Just try 4-5 different brands and see if there is much difference.

Next step is to try a scope. That'll tell you whether its the rifle or the sights. Maybe you can borrow one? Not familiar with the Remington 121 so I don't know if ithas rails or a scope mount available.

Next step from there is a gunsmith. It doesn't cost much to put a new crown on the barrel, but that may or may not help. The 'smith could give an educated guess. If the rifling is just too worn, you'd need to put on a new barrel if that's appropriate for an heirloom.
 
Had the model 121 (Remington .22 pump - with open sights) out again today, since the wife isn't around, and managed to tighten up the grouping a bit. This is with open sights at 80 yards.



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The rear sight has a little ramp, with a half dozen notches, that slides forward and back for elevation. I have had it set in the lowest notch, how much does each notch change the elevation?
 
Had the model 121 (Remington .22 pump - with open sights) out again today, since the wife isn't around, and managed to tighten up the grouping a bit. This is with open sights at 80 yards.

The black ring of the target is 4.5 inches OD.

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The rear sight has a little ramp, with a half dozen notches, that slides forward and back for elevation. I have had it set in the lowest notch, how much does each notch change the elevation?
 
Even with junky garbage ammo, any .22 rifle should able to keep all shots inside the white area of your second target.

1. Blacken your sights with candle smoke, or even a cigarette lighter.

2. Get a steady rest, or learn to use a sling.

3. Most important--focus your eyes on the front sight. Let the target get fuzzy, and hold that crisp front sight image on the same part of that fuzzy bullseye.

4. Squeeze the trigger without moving the rifle. Slow usually works best.


I've seen guys shoot the equivalent of 4-inch groups at 100 yards, standing with no other support.

Your muzzle crown may be worn. Cross-reference with another firearm and see if you do any better.
 
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