Tactical Shotgun Sling

[TPD315]

I have a Mossberg 500 and am on the entry team for my SWAT team. I have a collapsable AR style stock on the shotgun. I am needing some advice on sling selection that will allow me to transition to breaching tools, handgun, hands on, etc while slinging the shotgun out of my way. Any sling suggestions, or would I be beter off just changing to a pistol grip?

TPD315

 

[lmccrock]

What are the other members of your team using?

Disclaimer: my application is competition, but the useage is the same: transition to handgun. A Viking Tactics sling is a 2-point with a quick adjust to 2 lengths, basically long and short, for carry and deploy. You need some kind of sling swivel on the muzzle end (or end of magazine), and the other end attaches to an M4-style stock. For a traditional stock, there is an optional buttstock adapter, which I use on my 590. Unfortunately, my sling attach adapter is no longer available so I cannot refer you.

Sling discussions are usually lively; you might search in the Rifles forum.

Lee

 

[moga]

Mesa Tactical single point receiver ring

Specter Gear single point sling with quick detach.

 

[Chad]

Check out this VIDEO its from a company called Specter, seems like a nice product.

 

[Creeper]

Like others have already indicated, Specter Gear makes a variety of slings that will suit almost any specific need.

I'm quite fond of the "SOP" sling on my Benelli... the 1.5" shoulder strap is a good thing if you're carrying for hours at a time. The "Transition Release" and "Emergency Release" buckles come in handy as well.

C

 

[L-2]

I've been using a 3-point sling of one brand or another for ~10 years on various guns. On a few guns, what ended up always working for me was a simple 2-point sling or using the 3-point as a 2-point.

3-point Slings:
-easy to transition to handgun by just dropping long gun, although you may have to sweep the long gun to the side.
-there's a method of swinging the gun over the shoulder to carry, but he gun always wants to go horizontal behind your back, unlike just a 2-point sling, which will stay diagonally across one's back.
-with a shotgun, if a sidesaddle is used, there's a strap which gets in the way of accessing the sidesaddle, although just practicing with the sling allows you to be aware of this to work around this problem. I also didn't like this sling using an M1A, but it worked OK using an AR-15.
-a little different practice in technique vs. a 2-point, but I wouldn't say more practice, just different.

See how one of the straps is all but over the sidesaddle.

2-point Slings:
-similar techniques for various long guns used, including muzzle-up or muzzle-down carry techniques.
-simpler, less "strappage" in which to deal, less tangling up.
-transitioning is quick, but does involve putting sling over arm, shoulder, &/or head.

I haven't used the latest Viking Tactical 2-point slings, but others swear by them, but again, a little too much "strappage" for me. I also haven't used any single-point slings.

There is one sling which behaves mostly as a 2-point, but is quickly converted to a 3-point by "Uncle Mike's" which I also like: http://www.unclemikesle.com/products/slings_swivels/tactical/slings_shotgun_sling.html

 

[bigghoss]

I have a specter gear 3 point on my mossberg 500 security but it has the original fixed buttstock and I had to buy a side sling mount. should still be able to get one to work.

 

[inSight-NEO]

Try here as well (some nice 1-point configs, among others): http://www.urbanertslings.com/2point-modular.html

Here is a video link demonstrating the Urban ERT sling in a 1-point config: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi1biiR_DqI
Here is a video link demonstrating the Urban ERT in a 2-point config: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3NYaDqJRHU&NR=1
Here is a video link demonstrating the Urban ERT in a SIM sling config: http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?sw...=1&allow_embed=1&title=URBAN-E.R.T. SIM SLING

For my Mossberg 590 (20" barrel) I use this sling in a 2-point configuration, utilizing the standard sling studs. I could go with a 1-point (using a GG&G sling loop and ERT HK style clip), but this config would have a negative affect on this weapons LOP unless I had the stock shortened a bit. Plus, my 590 is just too darned long for practical 1-point carry. Had I a collapsable stock, I could probably make it work more effectively for my 590. But, for now, a 2-point carry seems best here.

Now, for my Benelli (SureGrip, full length pistol grip stock), the 1-point setup works very well when using the "Univeral PRS adapter" (I have to use this as there is no stock/receiver adapter I know of for the SNT). Very fast weapon acquisition in using this setup (1-point).

The thing I like about Urban ERT slings is their adaptability. Take a look at what they have (they also offer 3-point) and see if you find anything appropriate.

Dont hesitate to contact them...they have great CS. Most likely, Sgt. Mitch Barry will be the one to respond to your questions. He has proven himself to be exceptionally helpful in the past.

 

[Kmar40]

Is the 590 solely for breaching or is it your primary weapon? I might put a pistol only grip on the shotgun if I were then going to transition to a subgun or carbine. Of course, I wouldn't want to use a 20" 590 for the breaching gun though.

If the 590 is your primary weapon, I wouldn't consider a pistol grip only shotgun. I know our team and FI guys wouldn't allow it.

Our breachers are part of the support team, two mongos and a medic usually per support team. I wouldn't really want a shotgun on the support team anyway because I'd be behind--at a minimum-- the four entry guys plus you are already carrying a ton of gear so carrying extra ammo will just make you more encumbered.

There are a lot of decent slings out there. I like the Vickers slings. Most of the slings take a little time to obtain proficiency. I wouldn't focus on much more than being able to transition to entry tools or handgun and being able to shoot ambidextrously (a real problem for most one point slings). Anything else is gravy. It's not like you'll be humping your shotgun for a month or more in 'Stan.

 

[inSight-NEO]

If the 590 is your primary weapon, I wouldn't consider a pistol grip only shotgun.

Agreed.

I wouldn't focus on much more than being able to transition to entry tools or handgun and being able to shoot ambidextrously (a real problem for most one point slings)

As seen above: This may or may not help in dealing with ambidexterity (using single point): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi1biiR_DqI

 

[Creeper]

TPD315... you out there?

It's quite odd for someone to join a forum, make one post (on the 16th of May) get several thoughtful answers... yet not be heard from since that date.

I'm not fishing for a "thanks for the info guys" response... considering the occupation listed (Police Officer, SWAT team member, breacher, entry team), it's more a question of your health and welfare.

C

 

[badkarmaiii]

Works Great!

Sorry to necro-post...
I have this sling on both my Benelli and Mossberg. It works very well. Be aware that the picture on Uncle Mike's website shows it installed backwards. The snap-release belongs at the front. Both of my shottys have sling mounts for both conventional bottom-mount and tactical side-mount. This sling can be used as a standard two-point carry strap or quick-extending three-point sling. Got both of mine at Sportsman's Warehouse for about $24 each.