Tactical Pistol vs SBR

[pongo1]

Tactical pistols are usually declared good range toys but not practically very useful, lacking the necessary appendage of a stock. I recently bought a 9 mm DS Arms TP9 and attached an Aimpoint Micro knockoff red dot sight. I haven't tried this yet, but it seems to me that rather than using this with a standard two handed grip with arms outstretched, with or without the single point sling, this pistol could be used with a cheek weld. Placing the rear of the receiver against the cheek and nose against the charging handle (it's like an AR15), dominant hand on the grip, elbow tucked against the body and off hand on the foregrip, I can get a firing stance that is at least as stable as firing off hand with a stocked firearm. Also, assuming this stance would seem to be quicker than having to unfold a stock and then assuming a standard shouldered firing stance.

This method of shooting certain pistols, if it makes sense at all, would require a low recoiling pistol with an enclosed bolt and a red dot, reflex or ghost ring sight.

Again, I haven't tried this...not even sure if I should...anyone out there done this?

 

[AK103K]

I've done similar with an MP5 and an MP40 with the stocks closed, and it works reasonably well. Using the sling is better, and of course, the stock is the best way to go.

I dont know how well it will work with a gun like the TP9 with the grip towards the middle of the gun. I know I wouldnt want to try that with my MAC. Those type guns tend to rock up on the grips axis. With things like the MP5 and MP40, etc, the grips are at the rear of the gun and not so much of an issue. Your nose also isnt as close to the muzzle. Probably not really an issue on a semi gun.

That protrusion where the stock would normally go looks like it could be painful if you didnt get it just right doing what you want to do though.

Using a rear mounted sling as an improvised stock actually works very well. Its probably going to be your best bet. You basically thrust the gun forward until it stops and keep that forward tension on.

 

[RF11]

Never tried it but you may be asking for a whack in the face if you are not prepared.

BTW I love my TP9

and have only shot it with the stock

 

[pongo1]

OK, since I brought it up I figured I should check it out. Yes, you can cheek weld the TP9 to the rear of the receiver, but yes, you do get smacked a bit, just enough to make you not want to do it very much.

Trying to find another way to get near rifle-like steadiness without going the SBR route, (which I will probably do eventually) I found this works well: Grasp the lower Picatinny rail with the offhand first three or four fingers, fingers pulling downwards, the offhand wrist locked against the knuckles of the grip hand. Using the sling taughtly extended forwards, I can hold it quite steady.

 

[WC145]

Using a sling and pushing it out, away from you is the way to go. This method works well with my PLR-16.