Just sharing an experience....I have a friend that works for a construction company that bought some land for shooting. It's more than enough land with a range that has a 100 ft long 20ft high mounded dirt backstop. The range has seated and standing bench rests and fixed targets. Better yet about 100 yards away from that range facing the oppossite direction they have a trap range. They bought a used trap contraption that was neglected and sold cheap. Anyway this thing has a steel platform about 7x7ft with steps to a second 7 x7 platform above it all welded together. It has 8 spring loaded launchers on the bottom and 8 on top. It shoots the clays from every angle. There are even a couple launchers that shoot the clays straight up (slight angle). My friend and I went through 2 cases of clays and even more shells. The best part is that I can go there whenever I want. Christmas came early. I even got to do a little four-wheelin' in my new truck to get out there.