A few months ago I bought this 9mm SW9fSigma Series gun to be used as a duty weapon for the Sheriff's Reserves. It has already been back to S&W twice for repairs/modifications, including replacing the front sight ramp (a rubber type piece) with a "welded" on piece, and just last week, the extractor was replaced. The gun, in over 500 rounds shot, stovepiped about half of the rounds. Some of that happened with the last round of every magazine. It also ejected the empty shell casings directly back at me, burning me on the face and other areas of my body. After shooting (not very many rounds) the barrel was so hot, it couldn't be handled. Anyway, things are better now, still minor stovepiping that, I hope, is my handling method, and can be fixed. Big problem now is trying to find a different grip (probably needs to be slip on). This one is too small and straight. I need something like the k-frames that I had on my 357 and 44 S&W revolvers. Any ideas? I also would sure like to hear from anyone who has had similar problems with the S&W Sig, any model, I guess. I'm brand new to this site and haven't read everything -- yet, so maybe the answers are already here. I'm still trying to decide if I want to keep this weapon or try something else. Right now, I don't feel totally comfortable or safe with this one, and can't quite imaginge depending on it for safety in the field.
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SW9FSigma
- Thread starter MBradley
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You`re probably not gonna get too much positive said about the Sigmas here. I *had* a 40V a few years ago and in contrast to yours mine was trouble free. In fact I fired over 4000rds. of everything from 180gr. lead 3D reloads to 135gr. Corbons through it without a single jam! It handled very well in fast drills but it`s slow fire target accuracy was so so. I replaced it with a Ruger P-97 and I`m not sorry I did. I got the chance to shoot it again a few weeks ago. It`s current owner was shooting 10" slow fire groups at 7yds. with it and wanted me to try it out. I put 10 fast rounds into about 3" which convinced him the problem wasn`t the gun. However the same guy shooting a Glock 19 put 10rds. into 3" at the same range. The funny thing is that almost everyone who shoots it is just as or *more* accurate shooting it rapid fire than slow fire. I had a Hogue grip sleeve on it and liked the feel of it very much. Even the owner of the Glock19 liked the ergonomics of the Sigma better he just hated the trigger pull and couldn`t seem to hit well with it. Also the Sigma developed a problem while we were shooting it. It began to drop the mags while shooting. We were all sure the mags were locked in and changed grip etc. to see if it would stop but it persisted. I`m not sure what caused this. If you shoot it a LOT and it works well for you I don`t see and reason not to keep it but if it doesn`t a Ruger P-95 would be a much more dependable,comparable gun. Marcus
Thanks for your response. I'm still going to try working with this Sig, but it's going to take awhile to be comfortable with it, I think. I'm going out with a range officer in a few days to work with it and a couple of Glocks loaned by another officer (for comparisons). We'll see! Thanks again.
Don't give a penny to S&W, the rats sold us out in the name of profit. Read the deal they made with HUD.
There are lots of pistols that are much better quality, more reliable, and more durable than the Sigma. Try out as many as you can before spending your money. If you're LEO you can purchase at LEO discount prices with LEO/military standard capacity mags.
This site has a lot of very useful information www.remtek.com/arms
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"Get yourself a Lorcin and lose that nickel plated sissy pistol."
There are lots of pistols that are much better quality, more reliable, and more durable than the Sigma. Try out as many as you can before spending your money. If you're LEO you can purchase at LEO discount prices with LEO/military standard capacity mags.
This site has a lot of very useful information www.remtek.com/arms
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"Get yourself a Lorcin and lose that nickel plated sissy pistol."
I bought a 9mm sw99 about a year ago and it jammed right out of the box. Sent it back and they replaced the barrel. Then the trigger broke and I sent it back demanding a new gun. Due to the political climate(this was a few months after they signed "the Agreement" and they were starting to feel the heat) they agreed and I got a brand new gun that has functioned perfectly. Write their CEO and complain,things being the way they are I'm sure they'll be more than happy to help. Btw,I'd try to have them replace it with another model as,from what I've heard,the Sigma could very well be the worst pistol they have ever produced. Good luck.
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Ronin
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This may or may not be useful, but I was looking back at the January 2000 issue of Handguns and they have a side-by-side picture of the internals of a 40F next to a 40E. Naturally the frame of the 40E is 1/2 inch shorter, but another thing I noticed was that the ejector on the 40E was clearly shorter than that of the 40F.
Maybe this is due to the 1/2 inch difference in barrel and slide length, but I would think that the geometry of the ejector would normally be the same between these two pistols. So maybe part of the Enhanced 40E is a longer ejector. I wonder if this has anything to do with stovepipe malfunctions.
Maybe this is due to the 1/2 inch difference in barrel and slide length, but I would think that the geometry of the ejector would normally be the same between these two pistols. So maybe part of the Enhanced 40E is a longer ejector. I wonder if this has anything to do with stovepipe malfunctions.