summer camp "violence control"

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The Des Moines Register
Section: Main News
June 30, 1999

Byline: Thompson Bill; Fort Worth Star-Telegram

Just when it seems that the hysterical reaction to the school
shootings in Littleton, Colo., has reached an unsurpassable level of
lunacy, someone devises a reaction that is even more preposterous than
any that preceded it.
Congress has proposed superfluous gun laws, threatened to
prosecute producers of violent movies, even demanded that schools
post the Ten Commandments to stave off outbreaks of violence.
Politicians, of course, live and breathe for the opportunity to
overreact to a crisis. We have come to expect such idiocy from the
government, and we have learned not to overreact to the politicians'
overreactions.
But now comes word that the private sector has joined the hysteria.
According to the Baltimore Sun, private summer camps for kids are
shutting down their riflery programs in response to the nationwide
furor over guns.
Baltimore Sun writer Ellen Gamerman reported that a Colorado camp
operated by the YMCA is dumping its 92-year-old shooting program for
campers -and that similar programs are biting the dust at camps in other
states, including Maryland and New Hampshire.
"As much a rite of summer camp as toasted marshmallows and
popsicle-stick birdhouses," Gamerman wrote, "riflery is now under
scrutiny for seeming to promote the use of guns and to demystify
their power among children."
The story goes on to say that most camps with riflery programs
have no plans to get rid of them, "deeming riflery not only a
challenging target sport but also an effective way to teach gun safety.
"But . . . a handful of conscience-stricken camp supervisors are
putting the guns away."
It gets better -or worse, depending on your point of view.
"For the first time this year," the Sun reported, "Camp Chewonki
in Wiscasset, Maine, is banning any campfire songs that mention guns."
No kidding. "Campfire songs."
Personally, I don't know any campfire songs -much less any
campfire songs that mention guns. But I'm trying to imagine what
sort of campfire song might inspire some kid to leap to his feet,
grab a rifle and start mowing down his fellow campers.
Let's hope that Rosie O'Donnell can stop berating Tom Selleck and
Charlton Heston long to enough to learn about Camp Chewonki's heroic
effort to protect America's children from the burgeoning menace of
gun-oriented campfire songs. She might want to plug -uh, tout -the camp
on her TV talk show.
One of the YMCA honchos who calls the shots -I mean non-shots -at
newly rifleless Camp Chief Ouray in Colorado was quoted by Gamerman:
"The thought that ran through my mind was, `What if we had an
accident with a rifle, or what if some kid did turn around and shoot a
rifle at another child -how could I justify that we had this riflery
program going on?' "
OK, and what if some kid throws another kid in the swimming pool
and the kid drowns?
Or what if some kid catches pneumonia and dies after sleeping in
the woods?
Or what if some kid wanders off by himself and gets crushed by a
malevolent bear or some other dangerous creature?
Why, you could make a case for getting rid of summer camps
altogether. There's no telling what sort of terrible fate could
befall a youngster at camp.
Seriously, folks. How far will this anti-gun hysteria have to go
before reasonable people scream, "Wait once!"
Or something.
I've said this before, but I'll say it again so that there is no
confusion. I'm not a gun aficionado, or even a gun owner. I have no
affiliation with the National Rifle Association.
But this mindless anti-gun frenzy that seems to be overrunning
America worries me.
It worries me not only because it threatens the constitutional
right to bear arms but because it distracts society from the real
issue in the recent epidemic of school violence: the horrifying rage of
the young people who are perpetrating the violence.
I'm guessing that the rage isn't caused by summer-camp target
shooting. I'm positive that it isn't caused by campfire songs that
mention guns.
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BILL THOMPSON writes for the Fort Worth Star-Telegram.
 
Well, Bill you almost had it, but you weakened mid-article.

This man has hit the nail squarely on the head! Summer camps are much more dangerous than any of us ever realized! We must stop them ... before they camp again! My goodness, just think about it. There are wild animals in those woods, disease, dampness and mold, raging water, camp fires, ticks ... and the list of dangers goes on and on.

No, they just haven't gone far enough. No more summer camps. Certainly no more gu*s, rif**s or any other mention of these dangerous implements. No, we'll keep these kids in the cities ... where it's safe and secure ... ;)

I just love it when liberals really let their imaginations soar. Even the otherwise disinterested finally begin to notice how bonkers the anti-self defense crowd has become.
 
Is it beyond the mental capability of these morons to understand that the more training kids of all ages get in handling firearms, the safer they and the rest of the population will be?
But, don't forget, they don't care about safety, or "the children", or any other make up horse hockey. The only care about a disarmed society so they can shove socialism down our throats.
 
Having just returned from summer camp, I can assure you that the Boy Scouts of America have no intention what-so-ever of dumping their shooting programs. Every rifle and shotgun class every day was filled with kids enjoying the shooting sports. Many are first time shooters who learn the principles of saftey, sight alignment and trigger control as a positive thing in their lives.
We also have a "free shoot" period every afternoon where anybody, boys or adults, can get in a little range time.
The rifle and shotgun shooting merit badges (along with archery) have been a part of scouting since the begining. The emphasis is always on saftey first. Without these programs many of these boys would never get a chance to learn about firearms and what useful and fun tools they can be.
A couple of interesting side notes. This years shooting sports Director for BSA Camp Kia Kima (that's where our troop goes) is the Arkansaw State Trap champion. BSA insists on properly trained and NRA certified shooting instructors.
One of the most popular adult activities in camp is the annual "Scoutmaster's Shoot Out". Here the adults fire five rounds with .22 rifle, five rounds trap and five rounds archery to determine the best shooter in this weeks camp. Most every adult in camp enters. This year I won! (Yep, shameless brag)
The shooting sports are as much a part of scouting as camping and citizenship. That ain't about to change. Others may bend with the political wind, But the Boy Scouts will always stand by their principals.
 
Ditto on Boy Scouts continued support of shooting sports and shooting instruction at Summer Camp.

My younger son spent his week at scout camp in early June. I didn't have vacation time left so my time there was from dinner until taps each evening.

My boy completed both Shotgun and Rifle merit badges at camp.

The hardest part this year was not getting support for shooting at camp (BB gun, shotgun and black powder riflery), it was getting a qualified firearms director for the seven weeks of camp. We lost our former firearms director, an NRA qualified instructor and RN, who took a new job last year and also did not have the vacation time.

So, all you fellows follow Grey Fox's example,volunteer some time with a youth organization and if possible share your firearms training and skills so the next urban generation that doesn't know what a gun is except for TV and video games, will have a safe and well supervised experience with our guns. If we do not keep training new shooters in safe and proper gun handling there will be no one to keep up the second amendment fight.

Jim in IN
 
summer camp "violence control" starts when your child is born. The FIRST thing you do is grab the television and VCR and throw them out the window never to be seen again. Then look into private or home schooling.

The best thing you can do for your children is to keep the negative, violent influences away from them. That means telling the mind controlling media to take a hike (get rid of your TV). If you love your children, don't let the media get ANY influence with them.

[This message has been edited by Frank Haertlein (edited July 07, 1999).]
 
Hi Everyone-

You don't remember that old campfire favorite sung to the tune of Happy Birthday?

"Shooting guns by the lake....Shooting guns in the field....All day long we shoot guns here....Long live Camp Sunnyfield!"

Are they for real? Camp songs all about guns? Such fertile imaginations in the anti-gun crowd!

In my experience, the anti-gun zealots tend to become very one-dimensional in that their sole interest in this world is to eradicate the gun rights of others. Even if they have to make up phony stories about "campfire songs glorifying gun use."

While trying not to be prejudiced, I find many gunowners have lots of diverse interests that go far beyond guns alone. We certainly don't sit around making things up.

I thought I had seen it all....

Regards,

~ Blue Jays ~
 
I was talking to my brother-in-law ans neice about her upcoming trip to summer camp. He had given her a little pocket knive to take along, but she had decided to leave it at home. She was concerned that it might be confiscated or cause her expulsion.

Safety is an illusion!
 
Well, y'all may not remember those great old 'gun' campfire songs, but I sure do.

Yes, there was:
She'll be Comin' Round the Mountain with a Gun ...!

And, then there was:

Kum Bang Yah ...

and,

Old King Colt, and Hole in the CZ.

I could go on and on, but alas ... they are no more ... ;)
 
One of my favorite camp songs from days long past is:

"Kookaburra sits in the old gum tree
Think I can take 'em with my 223.
Laugh kookaburra, laugh kookaburra.
You ain't gettin' away from me."

Our Aussie friends probably know that one also.
 
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