Suggestions on a smith to install choke tubes ???

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Magnum Wheel Man

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my regular machinist doesn't have the tooling to install choke tubes, & suggested if I really wanted choke tubes installed, that finding a good smith who already has the tools would likely be cheaper... also I have a couple shot guns I might prefer to have choke tubes installed...

any suggestions

also are poly chokes really that bad... ( I hear they are like the plague ) I guess if I had a couple tubes it wouldn't matter, but I'm doing a "truck gun" & wanting the most in versatility
 
Briley would be a top notch place to send the barrel.

Poly choke is fine to me. My .410 mossberg bolt had a poly choke or version of one... It was great for me. I could crank it to full for a further out rabbit, squirrel or ringneck. I could open it up to cyl for the close in critter. Me and that gun were a force to be feared by anything with four legs or 2 wings...
Brent
 
Mike Orlen is the man.

http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=36237

PDF pricelist

I sent him a Winchester barrel on Monday, it took 3 days to get there, got it back the next Monday and he did a top-notch job installing choke threads (winchoke) and lengthening the forcing cones. Patterns very nice. :D He must have done it and sent it back out the same day. He also did a Beretta 1200 barrel with Trulock Thinwalls and it turned out great and quick as well.
 
Did you try just calling him? I've never read or heard a negative thing about his work, have experienced the good things first hand. Guys usually heap praise over on shotgunworld. Some people still work all day. :D
 
if it is just a truck gun, Briley might be more than you want to spend. Colonial Arms is quite affordable and does a fine job.
 
Every company mentioned so far is a good choice.

When you do pick a shop to alter your barrels, I suggest you have the forcing cones lengthened also. The shops above do that too.

The reduction in recoil is too subtle to detect, but the improvement in patterns is well worth the cost.

HTH....
 
Thanks for the suggestions...

this is the gun I'm working on... & I'm leaning towards a Poly Choke :o for simplicity ( but could be talked out of it, if they really are as bad as the plague )... I want a a nice compact shotgun ( for use like the colapsable fishing poles ) to keep in the truck everyday, should the unexpected chance to hunt show up... looking for use from ducks to phesants to deer possibly... so I don't think 2-3 choke tubes would be as easy to deal with, as a couple cranks on the poly... also, this is an older gun, & the 1st 3-4" of muzzle end of barrel are pretty crappy, & I want to trim it equal length as the stock when folded to fit in a tighter package folded... so I don't know if that'll screw up ither choke type, but I found some NOS Polys, so some of the gunsmiths might not want to install a tube they don't sell ( like Briley's for example ??? ) the Poly choke might offer me better patterning options on the shortened barrel ( it'll still be 22-23" long )???

would lengthening the forcing cone have any negitive effects of shot gun slugs ???

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Negative effects on Slugs?

Nope, may even help accuracy a bit.

Your project gun may benefit from a Polychoke. The crucial element is whether or not the thing is mounted straight.

Esthetically, I do not care for Polys, but they do work.
 
BrileyBrileyBrileyBrileyBriley if you like the gun. Nothing wrong with polychokes ... they just look like crap. I hunt with a guy who has a nice 870 with a poly on it. He likes it ... still looks like crap. :D
 
+1 @ Briley.

BTW- dial-a-ducks are hideous IMO but that's just me. That said my M12 actually looks 'sorta right' with one...

If Kolar will do it their work is excellent. IDK If they offer this service.
 
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Those choke adapters may be fitted to a barrel, but to expect to get them straight in line with the bore (at least as good as a proper screw-in choke installation) is not as simple as it seems, even to a machinist.
Those sleeves are not necessarily made perfectly concentric (from the ones that I've seen) so I would always ensure that the part is correct prior to fitting.
A polychoke can be fitted at least as precisely and has the added benefit of being trued and sized to the bore surface after a proper installation.

A poly installation is normally best test-fired for point of impact, especially when attached to a plain barrel and/or economy gun that might not be that close to POI from the get-go.
Plenty of single shots don't shoot dead straight, so a choke may need a minor barrel adjustment to have the POI acceptable.

Kirby
 
Thanks for the heads up on the concentricity of the adaptors... I'm sure my buddy will check it, & if possible true it if it's not, if I decide to go that route... I did pick up one of the Poly's also... if it threads on the outside of the barrel ( this one may or may not ??? ) then my buddy can install it, if it threads inside, I'll have to send out the barrel, or buy one of the adaptors...
 
Was in the gunshop last Monday. They had a nice old Winchester model 12 with and ugly polychoke--$450

I wonder what mine in worth-no ugly polychoke??
 
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When I looked at the sweat-on choke adapters and saw that they were not true, I could conclude that the nature of the manufacturing process did not lend them to being "trued" since the threads might not be in line with the hole that they are in, or in line with the material exterior, either. Which offset do you use for your baseline? Which is left still offset after picking one of 3 possible centerlines? You can only correct one, unless you go through so much effort that you could have easily made one from scratch?

Fitting a poly is much more than threading the barrel. I would normally not recommend that anybody re-use a used sleeve, and not have anyone install one without knowledge of proper procedure. An experienced machinist might be able to do this, but without instruction, how do you know what is correct vs. just workable?

Kirby
 
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