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A list of people too sutpid to ever handle my guns every again

Shawn. Brought my AR's in from a day at the range and was showing some visitors my collection. I had cleared them and took the bolts out 10 minutes earlier, so I knew they were safe, but they guy picks one up, not even checking to see if it is cleared (probably not knowing how) and proceeds to muzzle sweep the room. At which point all the guns all when back upstairs into their resting place.

Smelly German guy
This guy is a friend of a friend. I keep my guns at his place sometimes, because the residents respect firearms and I end up at their place a lot after the range, so I leave the weapons there so I don't have to drive around all day with the guns before I end up at home, so the guns spend several days there sometimes. Anyway, the guns were making their way back to my house when Smelly German Guy was over. I was staying a little longer to watch TV and the Smelly German Guy asked to see the AR I cleared it. Then he cleared it. (Good thing) but then he proceeds to play with the A2 sights which I had just zero'd 3 days earlier.


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These kind of folks are dangerous around archery gear as well.

I think it's an extension of the toy guns they had when they were very young.
 
"Shawn" needs to be educated. First thing you need to teach him is not to pick up any of your guns without asking first. Second thing you need to teach him is to never point it at anything he's not willing to destroy. It's fairly simple. You show him the rules. He abides by them. If he fails to learn, he's stupid. Until he learns, he's just "uneducated." Educate him.

"Smelly German Guy" cleared your AR because he had been "educated" on how to do so. He probably fiddled with your sights because he assumed you'd know where they were supposed to be properly set, and that you would be able to set them back to your zero.

Elevation... crank that knob up and down all day, shouldn't matter, since you set your elevation with the front sight (he didn't whip out a front sight adjustment tool, did he?)

Windage... you should have memorized your zero for windage, and been able to return it to the same setting. If you didn't, that's YOUR fault.

My suggestion: When you're zeroed, paint a stripe on your A2 knobs with a little white nail polish. That way you can return them to your settings no matter who's messed with them, even if you change them yourself and forget to put them back. Murphy likes to strike at the most inopportune times. HTH
 
Unless of course you've also been twittling with his wife ;)

Seriously though, that's just horribly bad manners. Sights are at least half the weapon, and you just don't jack with someone elses rig. Bad JuJu indead!
 
Chink:

Do you really think storing your guns at another person's place, where others have access a good idea?
 
Anyone messing with the sight settings on any of my weapons is liable to get butt-stroked about the head and shoulders.

I may not have the settings memorized, but I do have them written down. And I don't care. Don't touch my sights.

LawDog
 
I have the settings memorized. That wasn't the issue. Its that he just started playing with it. If he asked I wouldn't have cared.

Fred S.
Only the 3 guys who live in the house know where the guns are and they only stay there for a couple days at most. The fact of the matter is that I spend more time at my friends place them they do probably. And definitely spend more time at their place than I spend at my home. It I didn't spent a lot of time there, or completely trust these guys, the guns would never make it into their house.

As for shawn. We don't hang out very much. We were boy scouts together some years ago and were having an a get together after our troops 10 year anniversary ( we were both charter members of the troop and got our eagle scout together) he isn't a gun type I know that, but if he ever expressed interested outside of just playing with them like they were toys, I would be willing to teaching all I know (which isn't very much compared to a lot of people on this board)
 
That's like giving a "friend" a ride in your car, and he starts digging around in the glove box.
This is also the guy that slams car doors even if the car is new with a light door that doesn't need to be slammed.
You'd think he was closing a barn door with the effort he put into it.
I told him not to slam them as it will wreck the door seals.
"Stop being so picky."says he.
"It's my car, if you don't like it, don't ride with me."says I.
So then he starts fiddling with all the controls on the radio (treble, bass, balance, fader, tuner.....)
Sure, I could reset it in a few seconds, but that's just RUDE.
Same idiot "friend" was over at my place and started looking in the cupboards and drawers.
He got offended when I told him to stop right now or get the hell out of my home.
He acted all hurt for the rest of the afternoon, and when I took him home in my car he slammed the door.
I don't hang out with that dip$h!t anymore.

Call me picky, or neurotic or whatever, but it's not nice to mess around with someone else's stuff.
-Kframe
 
Ok, I get the point about the guy messing with your sights, that was rude. Shawn was rude and wreckless, because he didn't ask first, and he violated a basic safety rule.

I hope you politely informed them why their actions were irresponsible. If you didn't, how are they going to know not to do it again? I think you answered yourself in your original post... never let them handle your guns again. That means your weapons should be under your full control whenever you're at this house. Put 'em in a case and padlock it. And if I were you, I would reconsider whether it's a good idea to leave them there for days at a time. But they're your friends, so it's your decision to make.

Just my $0.02 worth
 
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