Student waving chocolate gun to charged
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Dennis Olson
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Because his actions caused the driver to make a panicked stop in traffic, the student with the candy gun, Jamie Hinderliter, 16, of Sligo, is to be charged with disorderly conduct.
Personally, I have no problem with this. Other lives were at stake here. If the driver had lost control of the bus, what then? And how many times have the cops shot kids who had brandished "toy" guns at them.
If you don't know, you MUST assume it's real. That's just prudent. And the kid isn't being charged with a "gun crime".
All things considered, I think it's a good call.
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Personally, I have no problem with this. Other lives were at stake here. If the driver had lost control of the bus, what then? And how many times have the cops shot kids who had brandished "toy" guns at them.
If you don't know, you MUST assume it's real. That's just prudent. And the kid isn't being charged with a "gun crime".
All things considered, I think it's a good call.
[This message has been edited by Dennis Olson (edited April 20, 2000).]
but of course,
if a student on your bus is possibly armed, are you going to slam on the brakes, make a huge commotion, and demand the gun, only to be probably blown away if it's a real gun?
or maybe my gun disarm skills aren't as good as those taught to Pennsylvania Bus Drivers
Seem like the safer thing to do would be to go along the route, and have the cops ready to pick the kid up at his stop.
if a student on your bus is possibly armed, are you going to slam on the brakes, make a huge commotion, and demand the gun, only to be probably blown away if it's a real gun?
or maybe my gun disarm skills aren't as good as those taught to Pennsylvania Bus Drivers
Seem like the safer thing to do would be to go along the route, and have the cops ready to pick the kid up at his stop.
I guess that this gives a new meaning to that old expression about "eating your gun". Which is what this little moron obviously should have done with this piece of confectionary evidence.
In this age of hypersensitivity to anything resembling a kid with a gun, this was really a bonehead prank to play. Kids have been killed for waving toy guns around at the wrong people.
In this age of hypersensitivity to anything resembling a kid with a gun, this was really a bonehead prank to play. Kids have been killed for waving toy guns around at the wrong people.
Glenn E. Meyer
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Take a bite out of crime.
Kid was a jerk, though.
Kid was a jerk, though.
Jeff Thomas
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The kid made a mistake, but I think charges are excessive. Suspension and working for a day or two would have been a good lesson.
Everything is a 'federal' case now ...
Regards from AZ
Everything is a 'federal' case now ...
Regards from AZ
Note that the boy got the chocolate gun at school. If they punished MY kid in this situation, I would try to have the Spanish Club, the teacher in charge, as well as the entire school staff and school board listed as "accessories" for leading students astray and "enabling" the alleged disorderly conduct.
And, to play their own game, I would sue them for defiling my child, causing extreme anguish to my family, etc. etc.....
The boy earned no more than a verbal reprimand from the bus driver - the man who over-reacted. The actions of the other students should have tipped him off that this wasn't a dangerous weapon.
This bus driver is a PC, glory-seeking twit (at best). I'll bet if he REALLY thought it was a real gun he'd have run away.
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And, to play their own game, I would sue them for defiling my child, causing extreme anguish to my family, etc. etc.....
The boy earned no more than a verbal reprimand from the bus driver - the man who over-reacted. The actions of the other students should have tipped him off that this wasn't a dangerous weapon.
This bus driver is a PC, glory-seeking twit (at best). I'll bet if he REALLY thought it was a real gun he'd have run away.
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Either you believe in the Second Amendment or you don't.
Stick it to 'em! RKBA!
[This message has been edited by Dennis (edited April 20, 2000).]
We are a nation of screamming ninnies... scaredy cats.
This is rediculous, when i was in school (15yrs ago) i had toy cap guns that went *BANG* and the worst i got was, "USP! Give me that. Now go write, 500 times, 'i will not shoot my friends with cap guns'."
And don't give me the crap about, "well there were not kids shooting up their schools when you were in school." Yes there were, it just wasn't NATIONAL NEWS back then.
We have become a nation of writhing victims.
This is the reason i am nearly terrified to carry concealed. If i am 'made', there's going to be all sorts of hell to pay, all because people jump to conclusions at the slightest thing.
~USP
This is rediculous, when i was in school (15yrs ago) i had toy cap guns that went *BANG* and the worst i got was, "USP! Give me that. Now go write, 500 times, 'i will not shoot my friends with cap guns'."
And don't give me the crap about, "well there were not kids shooting up their schools when you were in school." Yes there were, it just wasn't NATIONAL NEWS back then.
We have become a nation of writhing victims.
This is the reason i am nearly terrified to carry concealed. If i am 'made', there's going to be all sorts of hell to pay, all because people jump to conclusions at the slightest thing.
~USP
TOMBERGSTR
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God forbid he point a banana at someone .
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This kinda reminds me of the kid who was shot because he walked past a cop with a Three Musketeers bar. The cop thought the foil wrapper was a gun so he opened fire.
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Gun Control: The proposition that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own panty hose, is more acceptable than allowing that same woman to defend herself with a firearm.
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Gun Control: The proposition that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own panty hose, is more acceptable than allowing that same woman to defend herself with a firearm.