Stryker Cocked?

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hube1236

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Okay,

The scene from "Airplane!"

"A hospital, what is it !?!"
"It's a big building with a lot of patients, but that isn't important right now."

...

"Stryker. Stryker. Stryker. Stryker. Stryker. Stryker! [snaps fingers]"
Camera pans as a man punches the day lights out of some women.

Awesome flick.

Since we are all proponents of guns not discharging by themselves, what would arguments be against carrying a striker pistol or other gun cocked that is not a 1911. I figure it is snagging the 3 - 5 lb trigger while pulling. Is there any concern about the gun going off while undisturbed.

For those that say, "NO," would you allow a trustworthy person or yourself to hold a cocked gun to your head if the trigger was guaranteed not to be touched?

"Just hang loose Bloods, stewardess catch you on the flipside with some medicide!"

[This message has been edited by hube1236 (edited October 13, 2000).]
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by hube1236:
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... Is there any concern about the gun going off while undisturbed.

For those that say, "NO," would you allow a trustworthy person or yourself to hold a cocked gun to your head if the trigger was guaranteed not to be touched?

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No. Yes.

There's no more reason for it to go off while its held to your head than when its carried in a holster or setting in a drawer, loaded with one in the chamber.

I have yet to hear of THAT sort of accidental discharge.

The Glock (and most of the other guns that are striker fired) are designed so that the trigger must be pulled back before the striker can engage the firing pin. There is a block in between if the trigger isn't pulled fully to the rear. There may be other striker fired guns that don't have THIS particular arrangement (my Luger, for example), but I have no concern that any of them will fire while in a drawer or holster...
 
I never heard of any kind of pistol just "going off by itself", except maybe in a fire. I have heard of a lot of cases where damned fools fired a gun and then told people that "it just went off".

Jim
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by hube1236:
So would you carried a gun cocked (not 1911)?[/quote]

If it had the proper safety features, yes.

A Glock 17, with striker set, is "cocked." I'd carry that. My CZ-85 Combat can be carried cocked and locked, but its not a 1911.

So can my SIG P-210, Star Firestar Plus, and Star MD-40. (The last three are not 1911s, and don't have the grip safety.) They are all perfectly safe.

My Luger is striker fired, but also has a safety. I'd carry it, if necessary -- with the safety on.

There are a lot more dangerous things you can do with a gun...
 
A minor point:

The Glock, with the trigger reset (forward) is best described as being at "half-cock". The trigger bar is in front of the striker, and being held forward by the striker's spring, which is slightly compressed as a result.

There is no possibility that it could fire from this position (not enough tension on the sriker and a safety plunger impeding it's forward travel besides).

A full-length pull on the trigger draws the striker fully to the rear, while disengaging the safety, before releasing it with suficient tension it the striker spring to effect ignition of the cartridge's primer.

FWIW

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Make mine lean, mean, and 9x19!
 
What 9X19 said. A Glock striker is not cocked until the trigger is pulled. What kind of silliphant holds a gun to his head, anyhow???
 
I would like to know why some people get real nervous about cocked and locked 1911's but don't mind people running around (LEO's)with Remington 870's, round chambered and teh safety on. What is the difference between the two?

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Because I tend to be a lot more polite to folks holding riot shotguns? :)

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Tamara, (How ya' doing anyway?), I was talking about Police Chiefs and other political hacks that have any say in what the "boys" in blue carry. While I drove a police car for my first department, I carried a CnL 1911 as my duty arm. The chief had a tizzie every time he saw me (but could not stop me from carrying it as we HAD to supply our own sidearms) but had no trouble mandating that the department issued 870's be carried with a round in the chamber with the safety on.

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"If there be treachery, let there be jihad."
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