Strangest range rule I've come across...

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johnwilliamson062

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"AK47 rifles must have an optic on them. No open sights."

The only thing I can possibly think this is meant to do is to keep the riff raff. Very strange indeed. All their other rules are reasonable/logical. Maybe geared toward a specific customer.
 
Probably right in that, it's to keep out those who "Got's Me an AK, Beach!" in favor of those who at least had to go out and order an optic and perhaps even a mount for that.
 
No Rambos allowed !!!

The only thing I can possibly think this is meant to do is to keep the riff raff.
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I would tend to agree with you but what about RedDots? Technically they are considered as optics and target acquisition is faster than open sights.

Be Safe !!!
 
That's odd, but I agree with the riff-raff assessment. The AK-47 is the rifle of choice for all too many irresponsible shooters.

I'm still amazed that we have to tell shooters they have to have some sort of sights on their rifle to shoot on the range. Yes, people come in expecting to sight down the barrel of a bolt-action or over the top rail of a naked AR-15.
 
I've seen similar versions of that rule, but applied to all rifles, not just AKs.

My first guess is to prevent someone from playing Rambo. I had a rangemaster tell me that I could only shoot my M60 at his range if I shouldered the gun or shot it off the bipod and aimed it with sights. He said no doing the Rambo style hip shooting. They were afraid rounds would go over the berm.

Another possibility is that if they allow rapid fire, bump fire, or full auto, they may think that requiring a scope will naturally cut down on the rapid fire, without outright prohibiting rapid fire. At a range that I won't mention, they have full auto ranges and other bays for rifles that have long distance. On the long distance rifle range, they require a scope, unless you can show proficiency with hitting a long range target with open sights.

I can't guess why that specific range limited the restriction to AKs.
 
I no longer shoot at ranges with range nazis and their edicts, which unfortunately anymore, seems to be most of the commercial ranges.

Im not sure whos more dangerous though, the nut jobs, or the range Nazis.

Sure is nice not to be constantly chastised/harrassed for what my gun is, or how fast, or in what manner I shoot it.

Im kind of surprised that they havent yet banned the use of ammo all together, and required only dry fire. :rolleyes:
 
Given the number of people who have decked out their AK or SKS with the cheapest pages of the UTG (or Tapco, if they were feeling flush) catalog, I'd suppose that the rule keeping out "riff raff" is probably wishful thinking at best.
 
I can't think of any legitimate reason in the world to require AKs to have some sort of optics mounted and not use open sights and allow all other forms of firearms to use whatever. I don't buy the riff-raff idea. There are a ton of other semi-autos/autos out there that will spray lead just as wildly as an AK and many cost no more than an AK. Obviously, someone is power has a personal vendetta against AKs.
 
I'm still amazed that we have to tell shooters they have to have some sort of sights on their rifle to shoot on the range. Yes, people come in expecting to sight down the barrel of a bolt-action or over the top rail of a naked AR-15.
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I'll admit that I've witnessed on more than one occasion, an individual who had just made a purchase and popped into the range to 'just put some rounds through it'. Never understood what it was that they wanted to learn about it, unless it was whether or not it functioned, which I suppose would make some sense. Still struck me as kind of odd.
 
AK103K,

"range Nazis?"

I sure hope you can open your own range and some of us can come and blast away with AKs at both hips. Sounds like you might be running a really fun range---at least for a day. :)
 
Ive belonged to a number of ranges over the years, and yes, a few had range Nazis, some even "GESTAPO".

A good range officer doesnt need to be one, but unfortunately, there seem to be to many, who have no other power in their lives, except when in that capacity at the range, and they like to let you know it. More often than not, it makes for a less than pleasing experience at the range.

While I can shoot in my yard, anytime I want, I do belong to a nice range a couple of minutes down the road, and there are no RO's at all, and we can shoot anything we want, pretty much any way we want, as long as its safe. I have yet to see anyone doing anything that I would consider unsafe, but a lot that you would not have been allowed to do, at most of the other ranges Ive belonged to.

Just because you shoot in a manner that isnt "approved" by some, doesnt mean youre unsafe, or a concern to others.

Perhaps if some of those places that restrict anything but "2 second bullseye" allowed people to practice a little more realistically, they might actually get a chance to learn.

What amazes me is, there are a LOT of people out there carrying guns, who base thier skills on the above, and have never drawn and shot a loaded gun from concealment, while moving. Somehow, that bothers me more than the AK thing.
 
I no longer shoot at ranges with range nazis and their edicts, which unfortunately anymore, seems to be most of the commercial ranges.
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Please open up your own range, let anyone shoot anything anyway they want and tell us what your liability insurance coverage is.............:rolleyes:
 
no loading of muzzle loader at the firing table, I was told I had to load in a area where you were not supposed to handle firearms, with a muzzle pointing over a parking lot and a highway 100yds beyond that. Needless to say I no longer visit that range.
 
I used to write a lot of special contract specifications, a lot of them could have been contractor-specific. I suspect the rule is about riffraff in the singular.
 
unless it was whether or not it functioned, which I suppose would make some sense.
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I bought a used savage and did that at one point. I didn't have the scope/mount for it yet, but I wanted to check function immediately in order to be able to resolve with seller. 25 yards from a rest using the V down the current scope base as a sight. It grouped much better than I expected.
 
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